RE: [Philmont]: Philmont "Rules" - Timing

Hi Wally,
 I think you missed Bob's point and mine, or maybe I missed yours. What
we were both (I think) alluding to was preparing the crew for what
awaited them at basecamp. It can be a bit frustrating to sit around and
do a lot of waiting if they don't understand why. If you explain the
purpose of all the things they have to go through it makes it easier for
them to get through it, as well as allows them to prepare (bring a
book).
 I think it is always better to know what is going on. When there are
actual choices to make (should I go to services tonight, or wait until
we get off the trail?), they have the knowledge they need to make good
decisions.
 Philmont has it laid out so well that you don't need to know what is
going on and can make it through fine. However, as we have seen, some
Rangers make too many assumptions for their crews and it would be nice
if the crew members knew they actually had a few options.
 Having the pre-basecamp talk is a benefit of having access to an
experienced leader or crew member, but it is not a necessity. It just
adds to an already pleasant memory if things go smooth.
YIS,
 Tom
P.S. Got our waiting list number today "702". Guess I'll steer my guys
to the council contingent. Looks like the longer you wait, the lower
your number, so if you haven't heard yet, say a prayer.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-philmont@troop47.com
> [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Feurtado, Walter C.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:03 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Philmont "Rules" - Timing
>
>
> Doesn't the Ranger control the order of what is done in base
> camp? While it may be ideal to go to logistics first, if the
> Ranger wants to do health checks first that IS what is done.
> The other issues are "Is it better to get the crew picture
> taken upon arrival or with everybody else the first thing the
> following morning?" or "Could a visit to the Ville Philmonte
> be squeezed in prior to the trail or after coming off the
> trail?" or "Should the crew do laundry before or after the
> trail or not at all?" Other than allaying the concerns of
> the lead advisor as to what is going to happen next, does
> having an experienced Philmonter really have value? Marginal
> at best, because regardless of what experience the crew has
> at base camp or how efficiently and organized the Ranger
> handled base camp functions, what is long remembered is the
> experience in the back country.
>
> Now I know that some advisors realize that the bus out of
> base camp is dependent on arrival time and I know one really,
> REALLY good friend who insists on the first bus in the
> morning just to limit the base camp "circus", would getting
> out on the first bus or last bus improve the already great
> experience the crew is going to have anyway? I think not.
>
>
> Just my two cents worth!
>
> Wally Feurtado
> Philmont a hole bunch of times
>

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Received on Wed Jan 5 21:48:11 2005