Re: [Philmont]: stripping meals

I agree with an earlier post that you should purchase Philmont meals for
your prep hikes.

In 1999 I took extra power bars, rice and instant potatoes, too much sugar
carbs then.

The meals were MUCH better in 2003--- basically add boiling water and wait
-- and much better balanced for calories, protein,and carbs. Didn't need to
take the rice and instant potatoes or extra power bars. THANKS Philmont!!

FYI -- My guys would trade and barter for the extra gatorade. Suggestion
-- Use half the powder, makes drinks that will taste better than water, is
better for you to quench thirst, and will go further on the trail.

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Kim Pigorsch
Membership Chairmun (sic)
and Eagle Scout Advisor

Troop 681

San Diego, CA

>From: Patrick Arsenault <parsenau@student.umass.edu>
>Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: Re: [Philmont]: stripping meals
>Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:10:05 -0500
>
>Tom seems to have it mostly right. However, I would add caution in certain
>situations. Many crews find themselves in a situation where after packs are
>weighed there is a big push to eliminate weight and bulk...certainly not a
>bad concept. However, it is important to understand that while the meals
>are
>not always the most appetizing (though I grew to love some of them) they
>are
>balanced to have about 3000 calories a day and all your essential
>nutrients.
>While some scouts and some advisors can survive on their 3reserves2 some of
>the smaller scouts and indeed some of the larger scouts will need all those
>calories. The program at philmont is challenging and physically draining
>and
>not having the energy could turn that challenge into something unbearably
>miserable. Swapping meals at a swap box seems the better choice to me and
>only stripping that which will just never be eaten no matter what the
>circumstance. Happy Trails
>Patrick Arsenault
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>Ranger 03 05???
>
>On 1/12/2005 8:51 PM, "tom fitzpatrick" <tk_fitz123@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Stripping meals is an interesting practice that not all crew partake in.
> In
> > 2002 and 2004 the crews I was advising quickly learned that there are
>just
> > some food items that not everyone will eat. No amount of reminding
>about how
> > Philmont meals are well balanced for the time we're on the trail will
>convince
> > some scouts to even try specific food items. There are some items that
>I
> > won't even touch. (The contents of the can of chicken I got in 2002,
>looked
> > more like a food challenge on a reality show and I swapped my 2004 can
>for
> > some squeeze cheese (yum)
> >
> > There are several views on stripping. 1) eliminate weight and bulk of
>items
> > that won't be consumed, 2) rearranging meals so that you are eating the
> > heavier ones first, etc and 3) combine 1 and 2. In 2002, at one
>commissary
> > stop, we eliminated approximately 30 lbs of food we knew we wouldn't
>consume
> > (powdered drink mixes, food bars, canned meats, oatmeal, etc).
> >
> > We also watched what our crew consumed and found that we were human
>sumping
> > too many dinners, as several of the scouts were augmenting their meals
>with
> > snack bars, etc, and they just didn't eat enough, so with a few of the
>meals
> > we swapped out main courses (I seem to remember 5 packages of stroganoff
>and 5
> > packages of ramon noodles getting reduced to 3 and 3, with the remaining
>meals
> > consumed the next night when beans and rice were the main meal item) In
>2004,
> > it was different: tastes changed, the kids were bigger and eating more,
>we
> > actually felt that a few of the meals were a little short.
> >
> > In the spring, you will be able to obtain the summer menu and use this
>to help
> > make some of your food planning decisions on the trail. What meals you
>want
> > to augment with your own items, etc
> >
> > happy trails,
> >
> > Tom Fitzpatrick
> >
> > 74, 02, 04, 06?
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