RE: [Philmont]: 2006/2007 reservations

The only way to allow more scouts to come to Philmont is to have "more"
Philmont - as in more land. To be sure, when land comes available that
connects to Philmont, they do try to work out at least a land use
agreement. See the Valle Vidal. The agreement to use the Valle allows
+/-3,000 extra scouts to enjoy Philmont every summer.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Jansen
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: 2006/2007 reservations

It seems to me the fairest system would be one where each Scout who
wants to
go to Philmont actually gets to do so at least once in his Scouting
career.
I've gathered from the postings that some persons get to go more than
once
and some not at all. The lottery system could be weighted to favor
those
who have never gotten to go before.

Frankly, though, a better system would be to review ways to allow more
Scouts to come to Philmont. I've been twice, as a crew member as a
Scout
and, later, as an Advisor. I would not trade these experiences for
anything.

It is not a good thing for a boy to read about something that is part of
the
Scouting program, only to find that it is unavailable to him. This
applies
not only to Philmont, but to all the rest of the Scouting program.

Joe Jansen
JAJansenJr@MSN.COM http://www.customprograms.info/scoutingresources.htm

>From: "Joe Tavares" <j.tavares@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: RE: [Philmont]: 2006/2007 reservations
>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:19:32 -0600
>
>Seems to me Jerry had a pretty good suggestion, roll over the
>candidates on the unfilled wait list each year to the priority list of
the coming year.
>I
>like it. It could provide significant consistency over the current hit
or
>miss method. The biggest problem I could foresee would be if the
rolled
>over list exceeded the available crews.
>
>Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On

>Behalf Of Anthony Helpenstell
>Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 5:36 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
>Subject: Re: [Philmont]: 2006/2007 reservations
>
>Back to Square one.
>
>This is as it should be. Fair or not in some minds, this would be the
>fairest of all choices in most "lottery type" systems.
>
>Any suggestions on how to improve the selection process?? Complaints
>are easy.
>
>Anthony Helpenstell
>Lead Advisor (Westmoreland-Fayette Council) Advisor crew 608I-2 (2004)
>Number 243 on the waiting list for 2006 moving on to double h
>(hopefully)
>
>
>--- "Dr. Bob Klein" <drbob@troop111.org> wrote:
>
> > No, you are back to square one every year. This has been one of the

> > perpetual beefs with the various Philmont lottery systems.
> >
> > Jerry Thompson wrote:
> > > Does the waiting list move you up for the next year ????
> > >
> > > We are #1119 for 2006 (no chance to make it). I was wondering if
> > > we
> > keep
> > > our # and move up in 2007 reservation???
> > >
> > > Would be nicer than a yearly all for one lottery.....
> > >
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