Re: [Philmont]: Gear (Crew of 9 + 3)

In our case last summer, we had a crew of nine boys and three adults.
Fortunately, the three adults were Dads of three boys on the crew. We
simply alternated our tenting arrangements throughout the trek where one
night out of three, a son would tent with his father and the other two
adults would tent together. This worked very well, and it gave us Dads a
little extra 'father-son' time while at Philmont.

On a side-note, our crew was a true council contingent, with up to 80 miles
between families. We insisted that the boys alternate tentmates throughout
our shakedowns and at Philmont so they'd get to know each other better. The
boys enjoyed that part of our crew so the father-son juggling act was no big
deal at all. In fact, as we did Thorns, Roses and Buds on the last night,
many mentioned they felt they knew the guys on our crew better than the
friends they had at home who they've known for years. It was a neat group.

Pete Swiggum
Troop 1173
Green Bay
Peter.Swiggum@sbcglobal.net
ICWTGBTP!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Simonis" <js1864@gmail.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Gear

Also depends on your crew configuration. If you have a crew with 9 youth
and 3 adults your options are:
1- Four 3-man tents, with 3 adults in one tent
2- Six 2-man tents, but one adult will have to stay with their son/daughter
3- Three 3-man tents for the youth, a 2-man for two adults, and a 1-man for
the remaining adult.

>From what I understand, they are not forbidden as long as they are not a
bivy.

I've seen all of the above options work well. I personally experienced
option 1, with 4-man Timberlines as our 3-man tents, and we never had a
problem trying to find space in a campsite for the larger footprint.

Joe Simonis
ASM T6
West Chester, PA

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Kemp
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:27 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Gear

>Second, can advisors carry one man tents? e

They shouldn't but I have seen a couple on trail. .-I took a Sierra
Designs Clip Flashlight 2 CD (2 man) tent and used it as a one man tent.
Pack weight was less than 5 pounds and frankly I liked the extra space.
They're on sale at Campmor for around $120.00.

YiS
Doug
2000,2002, 2004

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