Re: [Philmont]: Gear

From: <j.tavares@comcast.net>
Date: Fri Jan 06 2006 - 14:19:00 CST

Someone suggested to me, the other day, whoever is carrying crew gear should carry the same gear every day. That way, "who has the ???" gets answered without everyone emptying their packs. Sounds like a good technique. Also sounds like one that speeds up getting out of the campsite every morning. We're trying that on our shakedowns and it seems to be working pretty well.

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> Everybody has opinions, so here goes.  Good leaders are supposed to set a 
> good example, whether they are adult or youth.  If the adults are part of the 
> crew, they should take a fair share of the crew equipment. Crew Gear should be 
> divided based on experiences during shakedown hikes.  Some big scouts, and big 
> adults can carry much more more weight comfortably than the "little guys".  I'm 
> 6'2", and 240 pounds and in pretty good shape.  Why should my 5'2" 100 pound 
> Vietnamese ASM be required to carry the same amount of weight as me?  Why 
> should a large football player who is 18, carry the same load as a 15 year old 
> skinny scout? Your crew leader is responsible for all of this, under the 
> advisors 
> support.  Work it out on the shakedowns, not on your trek.
> 
> For smaller people, consider giving them bulky, lightweight equipment.  Phil 
> food takes up lots of space, but is not terribly heavy.  Place the heavier 
> stuff on the "mules". 
> 
> Chas. Clifton
> 708G1-2001
> PTC NYLT Faculty 2005 
> 
> In a message dated 1/5/2006 11:45:28 PM Central Standard Time, 
> bsa.rec.law@gmail.com writes:
> "You all hang together or you all hang separately."  I understand the 
> reasoning of the adults being on vacation and to some extent I support the idea. 
> At 
> the same time, other training kicks in on the issue of the youth carrying the 
> group gear

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Everybody has opinions, so here goes.  Good leaders are supposed to set a good example, whether they are adult or youth.  If the adults are part of the crew, they should take a fair share of the crew equipment. Crew Gear should be divided based on experiences during shakedown hikes.  Some big scouts, and big adults can carry much more more weight comfortably than the "little guys".  I'm 6'2", and 240 pounds and in pretty good shape.  Why should my 5'2" 100 pound Vietnamese ASM be required to carry the same amount of weight as me?  Why should a large football player who is 18, carry the same load as a 15 year old skinny scout? Your crew leader is responsible for all of this, under the advisors support.  Work it out on the shakedowns, not on your trek.
 
For smaller people, consider giving them bulky, lightweight equipment.  Phil food takes up lots of space, but is not terribly heavy.  Place the heavier stuff on the "mules". 
 
Chas. Clifton
708G1-2001
PTC NYLT Faculty 2005 
 
In a message dated 1/5/2006 11:45:28 PM Central Standard Time, bsa.rec.law@gmail.com writes:
"You all hang together or you all hang separately."  I understand the reasoning of the adults being on vacation and to some extent I support the idea. At the same time, other training kicks in on the issue of the youth carrying the group gear

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