Re: [Philmont]: Autumn Adventure

>
> The four of us will be settting the itinerary and have decided we want
to
> camp at one or two camps and do day hikes from them. We also had the
brainy
> idea that maybe we could cut the load a little if we could camp under
flys
> without tents. Has anyone done that before? We've also heard the urban
legend that some crews have essentially camped on the porches in the
staff
> camps. Has anyone done that before?

Most of our AA guides have camped on porches. A few adults have too.
Most of us stayed in tents. We've also stayed in cabins but I don't
believe Philmont allows that anymore unless the weather is terrible.

> Have you stayed in tent city before or after a trek?

Our last crew (2004) stayed in tent city before the trek.

For our first couple of crews, we drove straight through to Philmont,
arriving by 8 a.m. on Sunday morning. Two or three other crews spent the
night before arriving at Philmont at the St. James Hotel or at the Kit
Carson Motel in Cimarron.

I'm not sure what we'll do next time but we won't drive straight through
trying to get into the back country on the day of arrival.

> What's the normal schedule out there?
> If you arrive in the morning will you get out of base camp that day?

Yes. By noon or early in the afternoon.

> What is the normal procedure to get out to the drop offs?
> Do you drive your own vehicles out and leave the vehicles there?

Drive to a turnaround or near a camp and leave the vehicles there.

We've had six AA crews. All but one stayed at a "base camp" and did side
hikes. Camps we've used for our "base camp" have included:
Hunting Lodge near Cito
Ponil (Little Norway Cabin)
Abreu
Miranda
Beaubien
Cimarroncito
Zastrow

1998 Autumn Adventure
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/philmont-autumn98-c.html

2000 Autumn Adventure
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/philmont-autumn00_405.html

2002 Philmont Autumn Adventure
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/philmont-021006-1.html

YiS,

-- 
Calvin H. Gray
Scoutmaster, Troop 405
Associate Advisor, Venturing Crew 405
Georgetown, Texas
I used to be an Owl (WM-62-2-98 @ Philmont)
http://www.troop405.org/
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