Re: [Philmont]: RE: 6 Months to Go

From: <j.tavares@comcast.net>
Date: Fri Jan 13 2006 - 14:30:50 CST

There are some realities about "steep terrain" that are problematic. The best we can get, here in Dallas, is Winding Stair up in Oklahoma. There isn't that much "steep" to it really. Also, the real preparation should be in working at altitude. That isn't going to happen in the plains of the US either. So we have to make do with stadium stands and running and backpacking over the best we can get. If we lived near the Sierras or near the AT, things would be different. I'm sure this is the primary reason we spin it in the direction of exercise and focus more on skills and techniques.

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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: abthomson@comcast.net
> Daniel Preston writes...
>  
> I really don't understand the thinking that shakedown hikes cannot be for 
> physical conditioning.  Of course shakedown hikes prepare the crew to work as a 
> team, but there is nothing that prepares you physically for backpacking like 
> backpacking.  Exercising and running stadium steps are fine but backpacking over 
> steep terrain is the best physical conditioning you can do.  Doing this as crew 
> provides both teamwork training and physical conditioning, not just one or the 
> other.
>  
>  
> Comment...
>  
> If the only time your crew is hiking with a full backpack is on shakedown hikes, 
> you have problem...
> 
> The shakedown will show if the crew is properly conditioning themselves, but if 
> they aren't, it is not going to happen just on shakedown hikes.
>  
> -- Al Thomson, Troop 236, 
> Schooley's Mountain, NJ 
> Treks 1999, 2001, 2003 
Autumn Adventures 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006

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Daniel Preston writes...

 

I really don't understand the thinking that shakedown hikes cannot be for physical conditioning.  Of course shakedown hikes prepare the crew to work as a team, but there is nothing that prepares you physically for backpacking like backpacking.  Exercising and running stadium steps are fine but backpacking over steep terrain is the best physical conditioning you can do.  Doing this as crew provides both teamwork training and physical conditioning, not just one or the other.

 

 

Comment...

 

If the only time your crew is hiking with a full backpack is on shakedown hikes, you have problem...

 

The shakedown will show if the crew is properly conditioning themselves, but if they aren't, it is not going to happen just on shakedown hikes.

 

-- Al Thomson, Troop 236,

Schooley's Mountain, NJ

Treks 1999, 2001, 2003

Autumn Adventures 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006

 

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