[philmont] Bear Ropes

Lou, Jim is right. I have been on both ends of the stick when it comes to Bears. Problems & no problems. I have heard the bears flipping rocks at 4:30 am in the morning looking for grubs and they did not venture into camp & I have had people foul up and the Bear was in our camp. They have many reasons to ask us to do things that we do not understand at the time. If it was simple, we all would not have traffic control devices on our streets. I was taught that a signal light colored RED meant to STOP. In some cities I have worked it meant to SPEED UP! Philmont does a good job on everything. 25,000+ going thru in a short time, and to have afew a problems as they do. They have reasons to ask us to do what they ask.
Steve Mac, 02, 03, 05, 06, 07

 
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From: JVH2099 <jvh2099@aol.com>
> Lou:
>
> Your suggestion that "they love to play up the bear problem" is unfortunate, and
> could lead some to believe that bears at Philmont do not pose a threat. They
> do. The fact that you didn't see any on your trek may reflect the success of
> Philmont's bear precautions.
>
> Jim VH
>
>
> James F. Van Hecke, Jr.
> 13619 Keesha Jo Ave. SE
> Albuquerque, NM 87123
> 505 332-8807
> jvh2099@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 01/18/07 16:50:11 Mountain Standard Time, lou@troop288.org
> writes:
>
> On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Donald S. Roberts wrote:
>
> > Still think Philmont should switch to cannisters.
>
> With all the food bulk, there' s no way canisters would work at
> Philmont. There's very little repackaging done, and they rely
> heavily on bulky carbs - crackers in particular.
>
> I took my own food on my trek in '05, and with the way the food drops
> are spaced, I don't think I could have packed all my own stuff in
> cannisters. It would take a major overhaul of the entire food system
> for them to be able use canisters.
>
> They love to play up the bear problem, but we didn't see any on our
> trek. A bag hung correctly is certainly enough protection from the
> bears there. They aren't nearly as aggressive as the ones in the
> Sierras, where you and I are more familiar. We carry canisters for
> our Sierra trips, but I wouldn't want to add that weight to heavy
> Phil Phood.
>
> Lou

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Lou:

Your suggestion that "they love to play up the bear problem" is unfortunate, and could lead some to believe that bears at Philmont do not pose a threat. They do. The fact that you didn't see any on your trek may reflect the success of Philmont's bear precautions.

Jim VH

       
James F. Van Hecke, Jr.
13619 Keesha Jo Ave. SE
Albuquerque, NM 87123
505 332-8807
jvh2099@aol.com

In a message dated 01/18/07 16:50:11 Mountain Standard Time, lou@troop288.org writes:

On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Donald S. Roberts wrote:

> Still think Philmont should switch to cannisters.

With all the food bulk, there' s no way canisters would work at
Philmont. There's very little repackaging done, and they rely
heavily on bulky carbs - crackers in particular.

I took my own food on my trek in '05, and with the way the food drops
are spaced, I don't think I could have packed all my own stuff in
cannisters. It would take a major overhaul of the entire food system
for them to be able use canisters.

They love to play up the bear problem, but we didn't see any on our
trek. A bag hung correctly is certainly enough protection from the
bears there. They aren't nearly as aggressive as the ones in the
Sierras, where you and I are more familiar. We carry canisters for
our Sierra trips, but I wouldn't want to add that weight to heavy
Phil Phood.

Lou

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