Joe,
I went in '65 as well and being a typical kid I have no memory of bear bags. What do you remember about the '65 system.
I have printed a copy of the '65 Guidebook to Adventure and notice that it hardly mentions bears at all.
We encountered bears on the trail in '65.
What were the names of the 2-man tents we used? I remember lifting my pancho (ground cloth) one storming night and watching the water run by. I stayed dry though.
Larry Sims
Crew 444 - Philmont Expedition Coordinator, Katy, TX
615-D1 and 615-D2 2007
Troop 1288 Katy, TX 610-C4 2004 Trek #24 (75+ miles)
Troop 1288 Katy, TX 609-A3 2002 Trek #5FM (Fire modified trek)
South Plains Council Contingent 718-G1 1965 (The Monsoons of ¢65)
BTPin2007!
----- Original Message ----
From: Joseph Jansen <jajansenjr@gmail.com>
To: philmont List Member <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:30:22 PM
Subject: [philmont] Bear Ropes
They are there all right. If you haven't seen them, give yourself a pat on the back, as your attention to miinimising smellables, more than any other single factor, probably led the bears to conclude that you weren't worth their time.
One bear story. In 1965 a bear raided our campsite, shared with several sister crews. Bear found a way to shinny up a tree and outwit the bear bag system of the day, eating most of a crews food. Our crew, too exhausted to erect the bear bag system, put our stuff under a tarp and set a jelly mixed with soap powder trap for the bear. (Warning: Do not try this at home. Do not try this at Philmont. It can only be revealed now because the statute of limitations for Philmont misdeeds has passed) Great chaos that night, with bear noises and boys yelling. Next morning the results were learned. Bear had eaten the other crews provisions, even though it had to climb to get them and outwit the bear bag system. The jelly/soap powder bait had been taken - and there were bear droppings very near where the bait had been set - but our provisions were untouched. We had a few jokes at the sister crew's expense over the next few days until arriving at the next food pickup. And once
during this trek we saw bear claw markings on wooden "swap boxes".
Joe Jansen
JAJansenJr@gmail.com
Philmont 1965; 1978
On 1/18/07, Phil Brown <Phil@eisnc.com> wrote:
Lou wrote:
They love to play up the bear problem, but we didn't see any on our
trek.
I have seen bears on 2 of my 3 treks. I am convinced the reason
Philmont has as few bears problems as it does is due to the diligence
they have to their bear procedures.
Phil Brown
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