From: Karl Sorochinski (karls@mercurylink.net)
Date: Tue Jul 16 2002 - 22:08:50 CDT
Sportmans Guide has the old model (square pockets, top is fixed and does not
become a fanny pack) for $99.00
Karl S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Fernandez" <Frankmiami@prodigy.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Backpack review
> Friends:
>
> There are several models of the Kelty Redcloud - again in my opinion, the
> best pack for the money that's out there. I've had the 5400 for close to 3
> years - major treks. Great value for the price.
>
> I've never heard of a Redclound going for anything below $140.00 The
> RedCloud generally runs from about $140.00 to $150.50. The Summer 2000
> Campmoor Catalog shows them at follows:
>
> Kelty Redclound 5000 cubic inch (fits torso 13" - 18") - price: $139.99
>
> Kelty Redclound 5400 cubic inch (fits torso 16" - 21") - price: $139.99
>
> Kelty Redclound 6400 cubic inch (fits torso 16" - 21") - price: $159.99
>
> I bought my 5400 at a Sports Authority almost 3 years ago for $150.00
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jpsampson1@mmm.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:48
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Backpack review
>
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> >
> > Another thought on that as well -- be careful when you order from
> mailorder
> > to insure you are getting exactly what you think you are getting.
> > Sportsman's Guide offers the Kelty RedCloud for $99. I know someone who
> > bought one, and it's NOT the same as the current RedCloud sold at the
> > outfitters. It was called a RedCloud "Classic" and had some minor
> > differences -- enough different for them to return it. Their website was
> > accurate and displayed what they were actually selling, but it is
> different
> > when compared to the current RedCloud.
> >
> >
> >
> > "David F. Ball"
> > <y2kdave@prodigy.n To: Multiple
> recipients of list philmont
> > et> <philmont@troop47.com>
> > cc: (bcc: Jill P.
> Sampson/US-Corporate/3M/US)
> > 07/16/02 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Philmont]:
> Backpack review
> > Please respond to
> > philmont
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Many people opt for the mailorder or discount purchase because of the
> price
> > but nothing beats the cost of having your pack fitted by a professional.
> > Pay
> > the extra.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alan R. Hamm" <ahamm@alanhamm.com>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Backpack review
> >
> >
> > > Our trek started on 7/2 and we had a training ranger and a trainee
> > ranger.
> > > The trainee had hiked the AT twice and had worked for years in a
> > "outfitter"
> > > store specializing in backpacking. My son is a small 14 year old who
> > bought
> > > a Jansport internal frame pack from Campmor. It was working fine but
> the
> > > 2nd day Darren (the ranger in training) looked at his pack, popped it
> off
> > > his back and in 20 seconds made about 10 adjustments that totally fit
> the
> > > pack to my son. I am now a big believer in getting the packs from an
> > outfit
> > > that can fit the pack to the person. We would have been testing and
> > > tweaking all week with mixed results I am sure.
> > >
> > > With the increase in food quantities and extra water carried due to
dry
> > > conditions, we typically started off with packs weighing around 50
lbs.
> > > Bigger is not better and with that weight on a smaller kid, it better
> fit
> > > correctly.
> > >
> > > Alan Hamm
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <jpsampson1@mmm.com>
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:18 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Backpack review
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Another comment I forgot about until reading Signe's post. The Lowe
> > pack
> > > > (internal frame) I bought comes in a variety of frame sizes. I am
> 5'7",
> > my
> > > > 16 year old who just bought one is 5'8" and my 14 year-old who has
one
> > is
> > > > 5'6". It's a Lowe Alpine Mountaineering and was made especially for
> > > > Galyan's, but is very similar to the Scirocco. Technically, this
> > > particular
> > > > one is sized for women, but works very well for smaller framed men
and
> > > boys
> > > > as well. With the variety of sizes available, he could probably find
> > one
> > > > that fits well. I'm not too worried about my sons outgrowing them --
> > > height
> > > > just doesn't run in my family!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Signe Rogers"
> > > > <HikinMama@iglide. To: Multiple
> > > recipients of list philmont
> > > > net>
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> > > > cc: (bcc: Jill
P.
> > > Sampson/US-Corporate/3M/US)
> > > > 07/15/02 05:29 PM Subject: RE:
> > [Philmont]:
> > > Backpack review
> > > > Please respond to
> > > > philmont
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How big is your son at 14? The Red Cloud is a full-sized, wide
width
> > > > internal backpack. Unless he is already a good sized young man, I
> > would
> > > > hesitate on this pack thinking it might be too big to fit him
> > > > comfortably. I had a red cloud & hated for the fact that it was too
> > > > wide & unwieldy on my frame. With a 14 year old, I would suggest
> > > > waiting until he gets more growth behind him before making an
internal
> > > > frame purchase.
> > > >
> > > > Signe Rogers
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com]
> On
> > > > Behalf Of Kevin
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:55 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> > > > Subject: [Philmont]: Backpack review
> > > >
> > > > I am looking at a Kelty Redcloud backpack as a present
> > > > for my son's 14th birthday next month. We will be
> > > > going on a Philmont trek next August (03) and I am a
> > > > little torn between buying him his own and borrowing
> > > > one that he has used in the past. I'd like a little
> > > > input, any comments, both pro and con for the
> > > > Redcloud? (I remember some folks really touting this
> > > > particular unit in the past so I was curious if there
> > > > was still positive feedback on it.)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!!
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