From: Tuck, Robert K. (RKTUCK@southernco.com)
Date: Thu Jul 18 2002 - 07:44:46 CDT
I believe that the weight limit is 295 lbs. My sister trek, 620-J1, had an
adult member who was kept off of the trail due to excessive weight. He had
been to Philmont before (at the same weight), but this time, the person
doing the blood pressure checks thought that he looked overweight so they
asked him to step on the scale. Nobody else in our 2 crew 24 person group
was weighed.
I don't know how Philmont's staff handles a rescue. But speaking as a
rescue professional myself, I don't know why they would have to carry
someone "miles to the nearest evacuation point" who has been hurt. I have
been involved with numerous rescues. We have a wheel that is fitted to the
bottom of our stokes basket (stretcher) that allows the rescuers to just
roll the person down most trails - even the ones with talus and scree. The
wheel is sold by the manufacturer of the rescue basket. It is only
necessary to carry the stretcher over the worst sections of the trails.
(narrow sections, next to steep inclines, Tooth of Time!). It actually is
not too bad of a ride. It really beats dragging the basket or having to
carry it.
Robert Tuck
ASM Troop 550
Warner Robins, Georgia
Georgia Power Emergency Response Team
Houston County Fire-Rescue
Emergency Responder/CPR/FA Instructor
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin [SMTP:kjmineart@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: height weight chart
>
> If I remember correctly, the absolute maximum allowed
> on the trail is 300 lbs.
>
> I do remember many discussions on this list in the
> past involving weight maximums and exceptions thereto.
> I was given the distinct impression that for adults,
> there is no exception to the weight maximums or blood
> pressure maximums listed in the medical information.
> For youth there is a little more lee way on the
> weight.
>
> I've heard it in the past and don't plan on taking a
> chance myself (not to mention the added health
> benefit) it's a LONG ride home from Philmont if you
> aren't allowed on the trail.
>
> Kevin Mineart
> Scoutmaster Troop 214 West Burlington, IA
> Silver Tomahawk Lodge 80
> heading to Philmont 8/02/03
> ...and a good ole Bear too!!
>
> --- Jim Whitcomb <Jwhitcomb@RochesterMidland.com>
> wrote:
> > There is a height - max weight allowed chart on the
> > Philmont medical form.
> >
> > Part of the reason for the weight guide, I've been
> > told by several physicians at the health center, is
> > concerned with emergency rescue. Many trails in the
> > backcountry are accessible only by foot. Rescue
> > transport, if needed, is initially made by via
> > rescue basket. Imagine trying to bring out a 225 lb
> > person from the top of Baldy? It happened while I
> > was there several years back. The individual - a
> > muscular triathlon athlete - slipped and displaced
> > his pelvis in the skree just above the upper meadow.
> > Fortunately it popped back into place.
> >
> > It took from about 11am until well after dark to get
> > him back to the health lodge. He was evacuated via
> > basket off Baldy - which meant he was slid ala Ski
> > Patrol style down to BT. As there was only one
> > adult leader left in his crew, and both our crews
> > were staying at the same place, we helped everyone
> > get back to our camp that early evening. Later I
> > saw him at base camp, and he was OK.
> >
> > The guide is intended for the general population,
> > not the trained athlete who is above weight spec,
> > but has little body fat, high muscle mass, normal
> > BP, and very tolerant of high altitudes, high temps
> > and low humidity.
> >
> > Jim Whitcomb
> > Otetiana Council
>
>
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