Re: [Philmont]: GPS DATA Available?

From: Mike Bingley (mbingley@telusplanet.net)
Date: Thu Jul 18 2002 - 10:48:58 CDT


Correct me if Iım wrong, but didnıt the government re-scramble GPS after
September 11th. If thatıs the case, then youıll never be able to get
accurate readings.

Mike

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On 7/18/02 6:39 AM, "Alan R. Hamm" <ahamm@alanhamm.com> wrote:
> I was told by the gentleman at fish camp that the "Scouts" were going to start
> making the maps.  Not sure what he meant by that.  Philmont is a great place
> to work on map and compass skills.  I was surprised how many trails were
> unmarked and others had such vague general destinations.  The GPS was of no
> real use helping make those decisions.  Only a good understanding of map and
> compass helped.  
>  
> I did "educate" the crew on how a GPS works and what they can do.  I
> occasionally informed them of the speed they were hiking and was asked very
> frequently "how far have we hiked".  I also sometimes told them the distance
> to our destination "as a crow flies".  The only trail where that was accurate
> was the trail to Trail Peak and the airplane crash.  STRAIGHT UP.
>  
> I did however quit trying to be precise on my entering waypoints from the
> maps.  I should have been able to locate camps within 100 feet.  Again, not
> even close.  I will confess that most of my pre planning was done from a prior
> generation map.  I have not yet compared the newer ones to the old, but I
> suspect they were the same.
>  
> Alan
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Gary Dodge <mailto:dodge914@earthlink.net>
>> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <mailto:philmont@troop47.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: GPS DATA Available?
>> 
>> Don't know who's in charge, but we ran across a couple of two person cons
>> crews that were walking trails with GPS units doing exactly what you were
>> doing as well.  We carried a GPS unit but didn't bring it out and tempt the
>> crew to depend upon anything but their map and compass skills.
>> 
>> Gary Dodge 
>> Old and feeble, but still a Fox!
>> 
>> "Alan R. Hamm" wrote:
>>>  I know that the scouts are in the process of updating their maps and I in
>>> fact saw some GPS data being taken at Fish Camp.  My Garmin GPS actually
>>> leaves a "bread crumb" trail the whole time it is on.  So I have a pretty
>>> accurate record of the trek we took (13FM) and the "exact" trail locations,
>>> again which differs greatly from the topo maps.  In the right hands, this
>>> could be useful information, I think.
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