Re: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?

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From: Alan R. Hamm (ahamm@alanhamm.com)
Date: Thu Jul 18 2002 - 15:08:45 CDT

Actually it appeared to me that the UTM grid was consistently about 1/8 to
1/4 of a mile off to the south. This seemed to be more off than east or
west, but I am not certain. We followed a lot of streams flowing west to
east and trails were criss crossing the stream but the plotted points were
always south of the streams shown on the unit. I bet you had to hike
further north to find your windmill, huh?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Signe Rogers" <HikinMama@iglide.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?

> Most of the work I had done seemed within the ballpark, but several
> locations were way off, especially trying to find the first windmill N of
> Rich Cabins. When the GPS told us we were there, we were still in the
> middle of forest and not a clearing in site. We did some guestimation
with
> the map & compass (kind of hard to triangulate in the middle of a forest!)
> & found our way - about 15 more minutes to find the windmill.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan R. Hamm" <ahamm@alanhamm.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?
>
>
> > Signe,
> >
> > Did you find them way off too? I know I entered several camps from a
list
> > obtained from Sheldon's site that appeared to be much closer to
"reality".
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Signe Rogers" <HikinMama@iglide.net>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:28 PM
> > Subject: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?
> >
> >
> > > Since demonstrating ability to use a GPS is one of the Venturing
Ranger
> > > Award requirements, when I hiked with a crew of Venturers in 2001, we
> took
> > > advantage of the opportunity to use the GPS at Philmont. As others
have
> > > observed, proper use of a GPS requires being aware of several factors,
> > > including the fact that it does not *exactly* pinpoint locations.
There
> > > will always be some deviation and users must of course keep this in
> mind.
> > > It is also my strong opinion, and probably the opinion of just about
> every
> > > other GPS user out there, that one can not make it a substitute for
map
> &
> > > compass skills.
> > >
> > > I entered waypoints before hitting the trail, and then I also marked
> > > waypoints in my GPS as we went along the trek. The waypoints taken
from
> > the
> > > locations themselves are in a spreadsheet that Selden has put on his
web
> > > site. http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/philmont-t19-gps.xls
> > > The waypoints are limited to the trek we did last summer, and since it
> was
> > > all North & Valle Vidal, it will have limited use for any treks this
> > summer,
> > > but you should know those are from-the-trail markings and not based
off
> > the
> > > map grids. Also, Trek 19 that we did in '01 is a different itinerary
> than
> > > the '02 Trek 19. The deviations of what my GPS recorded & where yours
> > will
> > > take you will still be there, but they should be much closer than the
> map
> > > readings.
> > >
> > > Signe Rogers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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