Re: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?

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From: Signe Rogers (HikinMama@iglide.net)
Date: Thu Jul 18 2002 - 15:33:21 CDT

hmmm, as a matter of fact, your theory would match about where we found it!
Our E/W was pretty correct & we did have to go north....

Signe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan R. Hamm" <ahamm@alanhamm.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?

> Actually it appeared to me that the UTM grid was consistently about 1/8 to
> 1/4 of a mile off to the south. This seemed to be more off than east or
> west, but I am not certain. We followed a lot of streams flowing west to
> east and trails were criss crossing the stream but the plotted points were
> always south of the streams shown on the unit. I bet you had to hike
> further north to find your windmill, huh?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Signe Rogers" <HikinMama@iglide.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?
>
>
> > Most of the work I had done seemed within the ballpark, but several
> > locations were way off, especially trying to find the first windmill N
of
> > Rich Cabins. When the GPS told us we were there, we were still in the
> > middle of forest and not a clearing in site. We did some guestimation
> with
> > the map & compass (kind of hard to triangulate in the middle of a
forest!)
> > & found our way - about 15 more minutes to find the windmill.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alan R. Hamm" <ahamm@alanhamm.com>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?
> >
> >
> > > Signe,
> > >
> > > Did you find them way off too? I know I entered several camps from a
> list
> > > obtained from Sheldon's site that appeared to be much closer to
> "reality".
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Signe Rogers" <HikinMama@iglide.net>
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:28 PM
> > > Subject: [Philmont]: Re: GPS DATA Available?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Since demonstrating ability to use a GPS is one of the Venturing
> Ranger
> > > > Award requirements, when I hiked with a crew of Venturers in 2001,
we
> > took
> > > > advantage of the opportunity to use the GPS at Philmont. As others
> have
> > > > observed, proper use of a GPS requires being aware of several
factors,
> > > > including the fact that it does not *exactly* pinpoint locations.
> There
> > > > will always be some deviation and users must of course keep this in
> > mind.
> > > > It is also my strong opinion, and probably the opinion of just about
> > every
> > > > other GPS user out there, that one can not make it a substitute for
> map
> > &
> > > > compass skills.
> > > >
> > > > I entered waypoints before hitting the trail, and then I also marked
> > > > waypoints in my GPS as we went along the trek. The waypoints taken
> from
> > > the
> > > > locations themselves are in a spreadsheet that Selden has put on his
> web
> > > > site. http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/philmont-t19-gps.xls
> > > > The waypoints are limited to the trek we did last summer, and since
it
> > was
> > > > all North & Valle Vidal, it will have limited use for any treks this
> > > summer,
> > > > but you should know those are from-the-trail markings and not based
> off
> > > the
> > > > map grids. Also, Trek 19 that we did in '01 is a different
itinerary
> > than
> > > > the '02 Trek 19. The deviations of what my GPS recorded & where
yours
> > > will
> > > > take you will still be there, but they should be much closer than
the
> > map
> > > > readings.
> > > >
> > > > Signe Rogers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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