From: Selden E Ball Jr (SEB@LNS62.LNS.CORNELL.EDU)
Date: Mon Jul 15 2002 - 10:35:13 CDT
Donald,
May I include your message on my Philmont page?
Selden
> I just got back from Philmont yesterday. I was at PTC for the week during
> their relationships week (all the religious groups meet during that week).
> In no particular order:
> I had never seen mentioned that CHQ and PTC were on the plains. I had
> thought it was up in the mountains (at 6600 feet, this California boy
> expected that).
> The food was of mixed quality. Sometimes good, sometimes awful. They
> consistently messed up the vegitables - overdone and poorly chosen.
> The cereals at breakfast that were available as alternatives included raisin
> bran, corn flakes, cheerios and rice krispies. The staff dining hall had
> cocoa puffs, lucky charms and fruit loops. I snuck into the staff dining
> hall on my last day and got cocoa puffs. The cafeteria folks pretended to
> be surprised that all the sweet cereals were only offered in the staff
> dining hall.
> Spent a lot of time driving around the north country (the burned area)
> surveying the burn damage. Went to Ponil, Pueblito, hunters lodge, etc. and
> the buildings were undamaged. They are planning to open up those areas
> tomorrow for treks. The fire damage is mostly hillsides and ridges, so the
> campsites are in good shape.
> Keith Calloway, Doug and Brian were not real receptive to hearing about
> changing the call in procedures.
> Shelly is due to have her baby today.
> Crews on their tenth day are truly ripe
> Some statitstics learned from Keith, Brian and DOug (the guys in charge):
> - Every day, 350 trekkers arrive and leave, representing about 35 crews.
> - Only 25% of crews are from east of the Mississippi (so much for listening
> to statistics on this list)
> - There are about 900 philmont staffers, 250 rangers.
> - All positions are *not* filled. They do *not* get as amany applications
> as they have openings (after some number of applicants withdraw from
> consideration).
> - They usually fire 8-10 staff members each year, the usual reasons are
> Marijuana, drunkenness or non-performance, in about equal proportions. They
> have only fired one so far this season.
> - Even though 200 of the 900 staff members are women, there is very little
> hanky panky
> - Less than 15% of staff have ever been on a trek
> - Most of the staff comes from surrounding universities, only a small
> percentage come from scouting backgrounds
> - About 90% of trek injuries occur on the third day. They call it the day
> 3 syndrome. THat is the day the ranger leaves the crew, and usually the
> last day they know they are near easy transport out.
> More later. I have to do some work ...
> Donald Roberts
> ASM T1201
> Fullerton, CA
> Eagle class of 73
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