From: Alan R. Hamm (ahamm@alanhamm.com)
Date: Tue Jul 16 2002 - 09:02:45 CDT
Our trek started on 7/2 and we had a training ranger and a trainee ranger.
The trainee had hiked the AT twice and had worked for years in a "outfitter"
store specializing in backpacking. My son is a small 14 year old who bought
a Jansport internal frame pack from Campmor. It was working fine but the
2nd day Darren (the ranger in training) looked at his pack, popped it off
his back and in 20 seconds made about 10 adjustments that totally fit the
pack to my son. I am now a big believer in getting the packs from an outfit
that can fit the pack to the person. We would have been testing and
tweaking all week with mixed results I am sure.
With the increase in food quantities and extra water carried due to dry
conditions, we typically started off with packs weighing around 50 lbs.
Bigger is not better and with that weight on a smaller kid, it better fit
correctly.
Alan Hamm
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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Backpack review
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> Another comment I forgot about until reading Signe's post. The Lowe pack
> (internal frame) I bought comes in a variety of frame sizes. I am 5'7", my
> 16 year old who just bought one is 5'8" and my 14 year-old who has one is
> 5'6". It's a Lowe Alpine Mountaineering and was made especially for
> Galyan's, but is very similar to the Scirocco. Technically, this
particular
> one is sized for women, but works very well for smaller framed men and
boys
> as well. With the variety of sizes available, he could probably find one
> that fits well. I'm not too worried about my sons outgrowing them --
height
> just doesn't run in my family!
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> "Signe Rogers"
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> How big is your son at 14? The Red Cloud is a full-sized, wide width
> internal backpack. Unless he is already a good sized young man, I would
> hesitate on this pack thinking it might be too big to fit him
> comfortably. I had a red cloud & hated for the fact that it was too
> wide & unwieldy on my frame. With a 14 year old, I would suggest
> waiting until he gets more growth behind him before making an internal
> frame purchase.
>
> Signe Rogers
>
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> From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:55 PM
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> Subject: [Philmont]: Backpack review
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> I am looking at a Kelty Redcloud backpack as a present
> for my son's 14th birthday next month. We will be
> going on a Philmont trek next August (03) and I am a
> little torn between buying him his own and borrowing
> one that he has used in the past. I'd like a little
> input, any comments, both pro and con for the
> Redcloud? (I remember some folks really touting this
> particular unit in the past so I was curious if there
> was still positive feedback on it.)
>
> Thanks!!
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