From: David F. Ball (y2kdave@prodigy.net)
Date: Tue Jul 16 2002 - 10:53:01 CDT
Many people opt for the mailorder or discount purchase because of the price
but nothing beats the cost of having your pack fitted by a professional. Pay
the extra.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan R. Hamm" <ahamm@alanhamm.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Backpack review
> Our trek started on 7/2 and we had a training ranger and a trainee ranger.
> The trainee had hiked the AT twice and had worked for years in a
"outfitter"
> store specializing in backpacking. My son is a small 14 year old who
bought
> a Jansport internal frame pack from Campmor. It was working fine but the
> 2nd day Darren (the ranger in training) looked at his pack, popped it off
> his back and in 20 seconds made about 10 adjustments that totally fit the
> pack to my son. I am now a big believer in getting the packs from an
outfit
> that can fit the pack to the person. We would have been testing and
> tweaking all week with mixed results I am sure.
>
> With the increase in food quantities and extra water carried due to dry
> conditions, we typically started off with packs weighing around 50 lbs.
> Bigger is not better and with that weight on a smaller kid, it better fit
> correctly.
>
> Alan Hamm
>
>
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> From: <jpsampson1@mmm.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Backpack review
>
>
> >
> > Another comment I forgot about until reading Signe's post. The Lowe pack
> > (internal frame) I bought comes in a variety of frame sizes. I am 5'7",
my
> > 16 year old who just bought one is 5'8" and my 14 year-old who has one
is
> > 5'6". It's a Lowe Alpine Mountaineering and was made especially for
> > Galyan's, but is very similar to the Scirocco. Technically, this
> particular
> > one is sized for women, but works very well for smaller framed men and
> boys
> > as well. With the variety of sizes available, he could probably find one
> > that fits well. I'm not too worried about my sons outgrowing them --
> height
> > just doesn't run in my family!
> >
> >
> >
> > "Signe Rogers"
> > <HikinMama@iglide. To: Multiple
> recipients of list philmont
> > net> <philmont@troop47.com>
> > cc: (bcc: Jill P.
> Sampson/US-Corporate/3M/US)
> > 07/15/02 05:29 PM Subject: RE: [Philmont]:
> Backpack review
> > Please respond to
> > philmont
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How big is your son at 14? The Red Cloud is a full-sized, wide width
> > internal backpack. Unless he is already a good sized young man, I would
> > hesitate on this pack thinking it might be too big to fit him
> > comfortably. I had a red cloud & hated for the fact that it was too
> > wide & unwieldy on my frame. With a 14 year old, I would suggest
> > waiting until he gets more growth behind him before making an internal
> > frame purchase.
> >
> > Signe Rogers
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
> > Behalf Of Kevin
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:55 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> > Subject: [Philmont]: Backpack review
> >
> > I am looking at a Kelty Redcloud backpack as a present
> > for my son's 14th birthday next month. We will be
> > going on a Philmont trek next August (03) and I am a
> > little torn between buying him his own and borrowing
> > one that he has used in the past. I'd like a little
> > input, any comments, both pro and con for the
> > Redcloud? (I remember some folks really touting this
> > particular unit in the past so I was curious if there
> > was still positive feedback on it.)
> >
> > Thanks!!
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