Re: [Philmont]: Trash Compaction

But what if a crew has obviously made an effort to compact and it's the
Philmont staffer(s) who get somewhat "high and mighty" as one of the posters
stated happened to his crew? If they, the staff, are the last word and
nothing's good enough, what does one do then? It sounds like a few staffers
went overboard and honked off crews/advisors and therefore created the
extreme of the current policy of not giving ANY encouragement to do the best
we all can to compact but not get ridiculous.

just a thought or two......

Mollie McAuliffe
714-CV Crew Advisor
5 days and counting......

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason A. Cotting" <p2ranger@anvilgear.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 09:31
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Trash Compaction

> Some would argue that by encouraging trash compaction that Scouts are
being
> environmentally unfriendly as it takes longer for ultra compacted trash to
> decompose in a landfill.
>
> I think that more importantly, the 3rd point of the Scout law applies. A
> scout is helpful. By briging up 2 days of trash in a club cracker box
> instead of a trash pillow, a scout his helping the staff by not filling up
> their trash storage. Have you ever had to eat and cook in a kitchen with
> bags of trash piled in it? Not fun or healthy.
>
> Compacting trash is fun. Have the crew turn it into a game of some kind.
I
> remember when crews of 12 would compact their entire breakfast in a cereal
> box. A good test to see if the trash is well compacted is to drop it on
the
> ground if it bounces then it is compacted. Otherwise it just floats to the
> ground and lays there. It became such a normal way of life for me that
when
> I got home, I would continue to compact trash (and do one piece trash)
while
> at home. You get strange looks from your friends when at lunch you are
> stuffing everyone's trash into a french fry or drink container :)
>
> Someone asked how it could be considered hazing. Some staff have been
> stupid and haze the scouts about trash not being compacted enough when it
is
> clear that they have already spent time compacting it. My favorite is
when
> an advisor comes up on the porch early in the morning to leave the trash
> from breakfast. "We are in a hurry to get out of camp so we didn't have
time
> to compact it" as they hand you a trash pillow. Of course they get angry
> when you say it is not compacted well enough. Too bad. It is these
advisors
> that let little incidents like this ruin their trip and write a manafesto
on
> their final Philmont evaluation as to how their experience was ruined by
one
> little incident. Philmont tends to oil every wheel that squeaks, not just
> the one that squeaks the loudest.
>
> I was very happy to see how Mark Waggoner saw the whole picture of his
> crew's experience and that he had a great time. You got to keep the whole
> experience in perspective, not one little incident.
>
> In closing, you can let your crew strive for mediocracy by turning in
trash
> pillows or you can encourage them to be better scouts helping the staff by
> compacting the trash from the crew. Even if you don't turn it into
> ultradense matter that creates its own gravity field, atleast put some
> effort into it.
>
> Jason
> ><>
> Retired Ranger
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Received on Wed Jul 9 13:17:05 2003