As Tolkien and his Hobbits so eloquently put it "Short cuts make long
delays."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Bob Klein" <drbob@troop111.org>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Trail choices when options are available in a
given trek?
> Whenever my Scouts indicate that they want to take a road at Philmont
> because it's "shorter" (which frankly, is only a rare request in my
> Crews), I don't tell them they can't - rather, I suggest they first
> check the ***density of the contour lines*** versus the appropriate
> trail. For example, the Miranda to Five Forks jeep road (a nasty piece
> of work) versus the Miranda to Maxwell to Five Forks trail. That
> usually results in a rapid attitude adjustment. After that, they are
> more receptive to a discussion of the other factors - i.e., sun
> exposure, hard-packed and rutted surfaces, and the possibility of fast
> moving vehicles. [Trail Profiling strikes again....]
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> Jeffrey Knoll wrote:
> > At our Advisors' Meeting Mark Anderson made it very clear that crews
were to
> > avoid roads whenever possible. The main reason given was safety (due
to
> > vehicles), but many of the other factors mentioned in previous posts
were
> > also given as reasons.
> >
> > Unfortunately, IMO, this is not stressed enough by the rangers and
staff. A
> > quick look at a map often makes a road look like the shortest route,
so
> > there is a tendency for the youth to want to take it. But, as
mentioned,
> > there are many reasons why the shortest route is not the best route.
There
> > is often the assumption that the shortest route is also the quickest,
but
> > this is often not true, due to the differences in grade and tread.
> >
> > -- Jeff
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jeffrey W. Knoll
> > Grand Canyon Council
> > Phoenix, AZ
> > '02 627-H1 Trek 26
> > '04 610-D Trek 31
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cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent.
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