Steve
You are absolutely correct. The Scout Troop does not exist as a legal entity and can not hold property. The chartering organization is the legal entity and holds title on ALL troop gear. This was quite an eye openner to our chartering organization of 65 years.
Mike
>From: The Putnam Family <steve.putnam@verizon.net>
>Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Leadership approval question
>Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 19:25:10 -0400
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>One thing to remember. If I remember correctly, the chartering
>orgainzation owns the equipment, not the Scout Troop.
>
>Steve
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>jpsampson1@mmm.com wrote:
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>>Thanks. The Vets have their space at a bowling alley but it's a
>>bar, smoky,
>>and not a good environment for scout meeting!. The school we were
>>meeting
>>at let us use the cafeteria but the layout was terrible for
>>ceremonies,
>>there is no storage space and we were at the mercy of the school
>>schedule
>>(too many Monday holidays and the troop couldn't meet). The other
>>schools
>>in the area posed the same problem, and most of the churches that
>>are
>>interested already have scout troops. The church we have found is
>>an ideal
>>location and facility -- wooded property to camp on if we want to,
>>nice
>>fellowship hall for meetings, a worship center and heritage chapel
>>for
>>ceremonies, and conference rooms for break-out sessions or SM
>>conferences,
>>BORs etc. and best of all STORAGE SPACE! All I did was get the
>>pastor's
>>e-mail and ASK and he was all for it! They had been approached in
>>the past
>>about chartering a faltering Cub Scout pack but the pack didn't
>>have any
>>leaders and the church didn't want to have to start recruiting
>>leaders from
>>the membership when none of the members had sons in the pack, nor
>>much
>>background in scouting. But they were all for supporting a Boy
>>Scout Troop
>>with a full staff of leaders. I don't think they want the
>>responsibility of
>>being the charter partner, but may be open to it down the road. As
>>for the
>>Vets, they have are helping us buy a new trailer and we don't want
>>to
>>discontinue that relationship -- they are being as helpful as they
>>can be
>>under the circumstances. Thanks for your input!
>>
>>Jill
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>> "Bailey, Jerry D"
>> <Bailey.Jerry@med
>> .va.gov>
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>> 07/06/2004 01:11 RE: [Philmont]: Leadership
>> PM approval question
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>> Please respond to
>> philmont@troop47.
>> com
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>>Requesting change of Chartered Org, might prompt Vets Service org
>>into
>>finding you a convenient meeting place! Good Luck and Best Wishes!
>>YiS:
>>Jerry D Bailey
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Welton [mailto:jwelton@rgv.rr.com]
>>Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 6:03 AM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
>>Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Leadership approval question
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>>Jill,
>>
>>Before adding any more rules, did you explain that all BSA
>>volunteers have
>>been given background checks?
>>
>>My second thought is would the American Vets mind if you just
>>switched
>>Charter Organizations and they became the "extra help"? That way
>>the local
>>Church would be approving all volunteers through the usual BSA
>>process.
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>>Finally, doing it their way, see what kind of checking they would
>>like to
>>have. If it's a howdy and a shake, I don't think it will get in the
>>way too
>>much.
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>>YiS,
>>Jim Welton
>>McAllen, TX.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-philmont@troop47.com
>>[mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
>>Behalf Of jpsampson1@mmm.com
>>Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 12:13 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
>>Subject: [Philmont]: Leadership approval question
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>>Our troop is chartered through the local American Vets, but they do
>>not
>>have a place for us to meet. In the past, we have met at a local
>>elementary
>>school. While the school has been very gracious to allow us to
>>meet there,
>>the cafeteria facility is less than ideal for meetings and our
>>meeting
>>schedule is restricted by school holidays and vacations. Therefore,
>>we have
>>been looking into alternatives. A local church is considering
>>allowing us
>>to use their facility, and it is an ideal set-up. We have been able
>>to
>>answer all of their questions so for, except one. The want to know
>>if there
>>is a process to include them in the process of choosing future
>>leaders.
>>They are asking this to protect both the church and the scout
>>troop, which
>>I understand. I'm sure there must be other troops out there who are
>>chartered by one organization, but meet elsewhere. Does anyone on
>>the list
>>have a leadership approval process in place? Does anyone foresee
>>any
>>problems? Thanks!
>>
>>Jill Sampson
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