Re: [Philmont]: Stoves, II

Hi Dr. Bob,
 
shipping back from Yosemite is not a problem. The post office at the Yosemite store takes them as parcel post packages and it took about 10 days to arrive back in Michigan. We use MSR dragonfly's and bottles (emptied, cleaned and air dried).
Just got back from an 11 day backpack in Yosemite....great trip. No scouts this time just four scout leaders that wanted a vacation after years of scout high adventures.
What is your itinerary? We did a giant loop starting and ending at Tuloume Meadows.
 
Brent Steiner
Troop 141
Mason, MI

"Dr. Bob Klein" <drbob@troop111.org> wrote:
Folks: As some will recall, we are taking a Philmont make-up trip to
the Sierras this summer (starting Friday), so have been faced with the
stove issue also. Bottom line appears to be, no airline will accept
stoves or bottles as luggage anymore (even brand new ones still in the
boxes), and none of the express mail services (FedEx, UPS, USPS) will
accept them as air cargo either. The express mail services will accept
as "ground freight", but this takes anywhere from 10 days to 3 weeks, so
the term "express" appears to be oxymoronic in this case. As someone
mentioned last night, many shipping clerks have no idea of what to do
yet, and so you need to be prepared to work around obstructionism - or
go somewhere else, or come back later for another clerk. We finally
just gave up and arranged purchase of new stoves and bottles at a
camping store on our way to Yosemite. How I'll get them back home I
don't know yet - perhaps I'll just donate them to a Scout Troop in the area.

Couple of warning remarks. Letters from higher-up airline personnel
granting you permission to bring stoves and bottles with you are very
likely no longer valid, and will quite probably be rejected anyway. And
has been stated multiple times on this list, trying to "smuggle" stuff
on board in checked baggage is both unScoutlike and quite probably
illegal, and may have serious legal consequences (i.e., don't do it).

Lastly, remember Philmont has stoves for rent (Peak One 440's, I think),
though if this problem becomes insurmountable they're going to need a
lot more. And if you can't deal with the hassle of sending your stoves
home, perhaps you can donate them to the Ranch.

Off to the salt mines.

- Dr. Bob

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Received on Wed Jul 21 10:01:25 2004