RE: [Philmont]: Trash this year

Good day.

I've been a lurker on this board for several years, since my first (and
so far only trip) to Philmont in 2001. May have a chance to go back
next year.

Two things:

1. Welcome back John!!

2. Jim, thanks for the lightning story. I worked at Trexler Scout
Reservation for 8 years in my younger days. Camp Minsi is our sister
camp.

Now I've got to run and start preparing for Hurricane Emily. Was out of
power for 3 months last year because of Ivan - and I was one of the
lucky ones...

Regards

KC

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of Peter Hedglon
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:51 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Trash this year

Hi John, it was really great to read a post from you. I have been
wondering how you were.

Peter Hedglon, Oneida NY

        ----- Original Message -----

        From: John LeBlanc <mailto:philmontjohn@yahoo.com>

        To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
<mailto:philmont@troop47.com>

        Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:29 PM

        Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Trash this year

        <<he word we got is that "ultra trash sompaction" has
        gone the way of human sumping - suggested but not
        required. Its now another one of those things that they don't
want to be
        construed as hazing.
        
        We kept our trash to a minimum - one piece and
        everything jammed into the boxes/bags but no extra duct tape to
make
        cannonballs.>>

        Ultra compacting is not environmental friendly at all. Packing
trash tight and/or tapeing it shut prevents any sort of degradation in
landfills. An environmentally responsible person just simply won't do
it.

        And yes, to require it should be construed as hazing.

        For example.

        Two years ago we ran into a demanding sort at one of the camps.
After I as an advisor heard about it, the next day (it was at our
layover camp) I went with the youth and the guy told them the same
thing. I waited in the background. The youth came back to where I was
waiting. Without being seen, I took the trash and handed it to the same
guy. He accepted it. Afterward I said to him"by the way, you shouldn't
say anything to a youth about compacting trash that you would not say to
an adult, should you?" I had to ask him again to get the answer. I
suggested he mend his ways.

        Whether he did or not, I don't know. But maybe I helped the
next youth to come up to him to not be badgered.

        You only have 24 X 10 on the trail at Philmont. There are just
a lot more beneficial and fun things to do besides ultra compact trash.

        On a final note, more than one finger has been cut or sprained
trying to cram little bits of paper into things they shouldn't be
crammed into. Especially when it's not necessary.

        Ultra compacting comes under the heading of "don't do anything
dumb and the trek will turn out good".

        John LeBlanc

        
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Received on Fri Jul 15 16:23:37 2005