Thanks for the report Dr Bob! I just wanted to comment on a couple of your
notes. Mountain Lions: I completely agree that there ought to be more
training/awareness of this potential threat. Plenty of information on this
is available--for example a Field and Stream article in the last few months
warns of this becoming a much larger issue. (I don't know when the article
was published--my husband read it at the car dealership!)
Also, cell phones, camcorders, cameras, etc cannot be recharged in the
backcountry. The camps use solar power to provide electricity. Not only is
there rarely enough power to extend beyond the fridge and radio, there are
no plugs as we know them. The staff doesn't even have the ability to
recharge anything--batteries run CD players!
Hope all is well and say hello to God's country for those of us not there
this summer,
-Nancy Coleman Stickelman
Backcountry '97-'03
>From: "Dr. Bob Klein" <drbob@troop111.org>
>Reply-To: Philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list Philmont <Philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: [Philmont]: Philmont Report
>Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:22:55 -0400
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>Note that my co-Advisor and I saw several requests at staff camps to
>recharge cell phones or other electronic devices (e.g., camcorders). In
>all cases, the staff refused to allow this. Fair warning - don't expect an
>accommodation in the backcountry.
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>Campfire Programs - IMO, were down a bit this year, both at Basecamp and in
>the backcountry. More slapstick comedy and much fewer songs than past
>years. I would catch them if I was at the camp (like Ponil, Pueblano, or
>Clark's Fork), but frankly I wouldn't bother if I was at a feeder camp like
>Dean Cutoff, Flume Canyon, or Ponderosa Park, unless you're REALLY into
>them. And I NEVER thought I'd say this!
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>Of note, if you have any Triple Crown Award winners completing their third
>leg at Philmont (Sea Base, Northern Tier, Philmont, in any order), they
>will announce it at the closing campfire. Make sure they know well in
>advance.
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>Mandatory Burros - Are indeed "mandatory". A lot of people are unhappy
>about this policy, but there have been few exceptions granted (2 or 3 so
>far this summer is what I heard). The burro training takes 2 - 2.5 hours,
>and starts at 9:00 am, guaranteeing a late start and a hot hike. The
>wranglers are insisting that the burros only go up roads, whereas the
>backcountry staffers are saying you can go over trails (like Wilson Mesa)
>if you like. Because of the conflict, we (reluctantly) stuck with the
>roads. Yucch.
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>Separated Crews - There were two instances of lost campers over the past
>two weeks, one of which apparently involved a very wide SAR to find said
>camper at like 2:30 am. Both instances arose from Crews separating on the
>trail while hiking. We happened to pass two grim-faced gold-tabs and a
>large Ranger heading into Copper Park to "discuss" the situation with the
>above specified 2:30 am Crew, and they didn't look real pleased. Suggest
>you not allow this to happen with your Crew.
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>That's it for now. I have a gear-sorting session in an hour, so I don't
>know if I'll get to review my emails tonight or not (I'm still pretty
>whipped). If I see anything else that I can address, I will do so late
>tonight or tomorrow. I hope this helps anyone who is about to head out.
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