[Philmont] Keeping warm and dry

From: Daniel Preston <prestonar@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed Jul 18 2007 - 08:58:53 CDT

I agree that rainpants should be in your pack. We were in a
thunderstorm on Hart Peak last year and had to wait-out the lightning
for 45 minutes. It was a cold rain and the one Scout in our group who
decided not to bring his rainpants was shivering with cold by the time
we began hiking again. Everyone else was fine.

I don't see the need for a thermal shirt or long underwear. If it is
cold, a T-shirt, fleece and rainjacket will keep you warm, probably too
warm if you are hiking. Likewise, a pair of zip-offs and rainpants
will keep you plenty warm for a summer trip at Philmont.

Dan Preston
Louisville, KY
On Jul 18, 2007, at 7:06 AM, lehigh78@aim.com wrote:

> Larry Taylor writes...
>
> <snip> we left our thermal shirts and rain pants in the cars.  We had
> long sleeve shirts and a fleece jacket each and these without the
> thernal shirt worked fine.
>
> Comments...
>
> I would NEVER go on the trail without rainpants - they are a health
> and safety issue when it comes to hypothermia.
>
> If "thermal shirts" are the upper part of long underwear, I would
> also recommend taking them (if they are something else, agree that
> they are not needed.)
>
> The personal equipment list in the Guidebook to Adventure has changed
> minimally in the past 8 years that I have been looking at it - that is
> the last word on necessary and sufficient gear, and any deviations
> need to well thought out.  For instance, I do not carry gloves to keep
> my hands warm - if necessary, I'd use a pair of socks as mittens
> (though I never have).
>
> The fact that the end of a trek I have not used something like
> rainpants or long underwear really has no bearing on whether I might
> need them the next time.
>
> The converse it true - if it is NOT in the eqipment list, you don't
> need it.  I am not recommending a car camping "this might come in
> handy" attitude.
>
> - Al Thomson
> Treks 1999, 2001, and 2003
> Autumn Adventures 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006 and 2008
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Dan Preston
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