Re: [Philmont]: Shipping Coleman stoves.

Jim,
You doth protest to much. :-))
I just checked the TSA.gov site and here's the link.
http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1187.xml

If you check the FAA.GOV site you will see that safety matches can be
carried on your person and certain types of lighters.
It doesn't mention stoves.

Will we be able to get matches or lighters at base camp or at the back
country commissaries?

We leave Saturday. Yippee!
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Moss: BSA Law" <BSARecLaw@earthlink.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Shipping Coleman stoves.

> You sir, are wrong and so is your TSA employee friend.
>
> It is against the law to take any combustible or container that has ever
> held a combustible on a commercial flight. It always has been against the
> law. 911 created the need to enforce it.
>
> The JD stands for Juris Doctorate, for those of you who do not know, that
> means Attorney at Law.
>
>
> James H. Moss, JD
> PO Box 16743
> Golden, CO 80402
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> jmoss@cmc.edu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stan Clark" <shredder110@hotmail.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 12:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Shipping Coleman stoves.
>
>
> > To all
> >
> > It is not against the law to ship a cleaned out stove and bottle in your
> > PACK. Just do not take it through security on your person. As long as
> > there are no fumes or liquid and the stoves are completely cleaned they
> are
> > not a fire hazard nor considered hazmat. What is more worrisome is all
of
> > the butane lighters left in the packs. They are a fire hazard and
should
> > not be packed. Your are able to take 1 (one) of those thru security on
> your
> > person. I have asked many TSA personnel and looked it up on the TSA web
> > site. Now to avoid all of the hassle of a potential search of your
> backpack
> > due to left over fumes or potential nitrogen residue I would ship it out
> via
> > UPS or FEDEX (Which I have already done for our crew).
> >
> > Stan Clark
> > ASM Troop 63
> > Capt SWA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
> > Behalf Of Jim Moss: BSA Law
> > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 11:30 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> > Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Shipping Coleman stoves.
> >
> > IT IS A FELONY TO SHIP STOVES on any airplane. Some airports may let you
> get
> > through, but it is a felony. Even if there is no fuel container on the
> > stove, they are pulling them at Denver.
> >
> > They now have a display at Denver International when going through
> security
> > and the top shelf is a stove and fuel bottle.
> >
> > HOW CAN ANY OF YOUR SUGGEST THAT YOU HIDE A STOVE IN YOUR BACK PACK TO
> BEAT
> > THE SYSTEM. What are you teaching the youth in your care? IT IS OK TO
> > VIOLATE THE LAW AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT GET CAUGHT?
> >
> >
> > James H. Moss, JD
> > PO Box 16743
> > Golden, CO 80402
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> > jmoss@cmc.edu
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> >
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