RE: [Philmont]: Crew member agreement

I agree, the Scout Oath and Law should guide all behavior,

but any crew member agreement should include some kind of plan to send a
scout home IF they violate the scout oath and Law.

We had this kind of plan in our CODE of CONDUCT for our Council contingent.
And this is exactly what we had to do in 2003, send a boy home right after
he arrived AT Philmont. His behavior on the train was horrible, and rather
than spoil the trek for everyone the adult leadership decided to send him
home. (we should have known it would only get worst after his
confrontational behavior on tune up treks)

I worded the PHILMONT Code of Conduct after one my son had to sign for the
2001 National Jamboree. The council contigent coordinator uses it every
year now.

  It is on my other computer. Contact me privately if you want a copy.

troop681@hotmail.com

Kim Pigorsch
Outdoor Chairmun (sic)

www.troop681.org

San Diego, CA

>From: "Jim Moss: BSA Law" <bsareclaw@earthlink.net>
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>Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Crew member agreement
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:28:31 -0600
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> Why must you expect a youth to do more than live up to the Scout Oath and
>Law. Why are we always insisting on adding expectations all ready covered
>in the organization and the oath and pledge taken by the youth?
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>As far as immediately terminating a youth for signing a document promising
>attendance. You are kidding right? Their Kids!
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>And hope one of the terminated youth's parents is not an attorney.
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>Will the kids have a better time if they show up and work, you bet. But
>life happens for youth.
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Received on Sat Jun 25 10:07:53 2005