[Philmont] Notes from another Crew 1519

I've been in the situation of the first hiker. Drank about a liter of
Wyler's Lemonaide too fast after a hot dry hike and it "rebounded" on
me. I was okay and knew exactly what had happened, but I scared my
hiking partners.
 
The second episode is just plain spooky. I don't want to try and
critique via long distance, but I wonder what was on the med form.
FWIW, one of the guys in our Troops wants to go to Philmont with the
crew next summer, but has a 'heart condition'. I gave the parents the
risk advisory and suggested that they have the cardiologist call
Philmont to see if he would be able to go. Turns out, the cardiologist
won't clear the boy for football, so I would be VERY surprised if he
gets to go next summer.
 
These are the kind of things that can put Wilderness First Aid to an
extreme test, and can result in extraordinarily 'bad press'.
 
!!!!!!! Please note that I'm not making light of the situation, but
these types of conditions can be fatal !!!!!!!!
 
Happy Trails,
 
Roy Fisher

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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:33 AM
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Subject: [Philmont] Notes from another Crew 1519

I have included an email from Larry Thimm, whose son Darrin Keller is a
Ranger at Philmont this summer. concerning Darrin's experiences with
medical issues while on the trail. The first situation happens on a
regular basis. The second is downright frightening. It doesn't seem
like either crew was very prepared. Glad that Darrin is an EMT. Darrin
and Christian Braunlich from our crew are at Philmont this summer.

"Darrin called tonight. He was awaiting a crew that had a 4:30 arrival
time. He was not pleased with that late time.
 
While out with a crew last week, he had a very interesting day. Just
into their short first day hike, a crew member started throwing up
(multiple times). He was somewhat dehydrated and had just chugged a
poweraide. Darrin cooled him off and since they were close to a camp (I
think it was a turnaround), he and the camp directory radioed medical.
Medical told them to not hike until after 5:30 PM (to keep cool). So,
Darrin got a temporary camp site there, had them start dinner and worked
on Ranger training.
 
While working on this, two boys from another crew ran right through
their camp site. Darrin told them to slow down and they said they were
having an emergency. Darrin went with them and found a member of another
crew passed out next to a creek. His advisors were there too. The boy
keep going into seizures. Darrin once again got the camp director to
call medical. He was convulsing every 3 minutes. The adults said he need
pills (maybe calcium) for a heart condition and he had left them at
medical. Well it turns out he had actually left the pills at home and
not one had noticed. He was doing better and they evacuated him. He flew
home the next day.
 
Hard to believe that the advisors, parents and medical were so lax and
missed this.
 
The initial boy from Darin's crew was doing fine. But by the time they
got done with all of this they just spent the night at this camp and did
the days 1 and 2 hikes both on the second day.
 
What fun.
 
Larry"

Cooper Wright
Warrenton, VA

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Received on Wed Jun 20 19:54:25 2007