Kirk, nice post to Philmont board.
Are you still at summer camp? We are going next week.
Eric
> Keens are actually patented as a "closed toe shoes" and
> as such the health
> department cannot stop you from wearing them if you
> worked in a restaurant
> kitchen. (OSHA has a requirement that you must wear
> "closed toe shoe" at
> work in a kitchen, amongst other places.) Philmont can (
> and of course does)
> make what ever rules they want, but the only way to
> promote change is to
> start the first step by asking for their opinion about
> your foot ware. If
> (when) they say NO, ask for a waiver due to your specific
> situation. The
> proof is in the pudding, 150 miles of backpacking with
> 30+ pounds on your
> back and Keens on your feet may be the right mix of data
> to allow an
> exception. Plenty of experienced backpackers have
> changed from traditional
> boots to shoes and even to Keens and such. Philmont will
> eventually grow
> with the times, but it will be a slow growth and will
> occur only if and when
> their guests apply more frequent pressure to allow easier
> access to foot
> ware exceptions, which in time will allow for a
> relaxation of the current
> rules (which in reality are not unreasonable as they
> stand today).
>
> Kirk Maes, Troop 503, Vero Beach FL, Phil of the future -
> June 08
>
>
> On 6/21/07, Bob Gardere <rfgardere@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >I wore these as camp shoes in 2005
> http://www.rei.com/product/720183 The
> >heal is closed off more than the other pair. I also wore
> my sock liners
> >after I rubbed a blister on my heal retreving the bear
> bags one morning
> >(only one I got on the trek). Like them because I can
> put them toe in heal
> >and strap on my backpack, and they allow my feet to air.
> The are also
> >perfect for kayaking (first place I used them). On
> second pair.
> >
> >Bob Gardere
> >Troop 895
> >Richardson TX
> >Trek 21 2005
> >AA '04 & '06
> >WB63 Philmont 2001 (Candidate)
> >WB79 Philomnt 2006 (Staff)
> >Used to be a Fox
> >
> >---- Troop 681 Kim P <troop681@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >=============
> >
> >I used these for my "CAMP" shoes in 2003 and plan to use
> them this summer
> >too. No one said anything in 2003.
> >
> >
> >I wanted these in 2003 after having to "wet foot" cross
> a lot of streams
> >in 1999. Happy there are LOTS of bridges to use now.
> >
> >Wouldn't want to hike full time in them, taking lots of
> duct tape in case
> >I blow out a boot.
> >
> >
> >
> >Kim Pigorsch Philmont '99, '03, '07 (724-T) Troop 681
> Outdoor Chairmun
> >(sic) www.troop681.com - troop website www.sdicbsa.org -
> Council Website
> >San Diego, CA> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:10:09 -0400>
> From:
> >jajansenjr@gmail.com> To: Philmont@troop47.com> Subject:
> [Philmont]
> >Footwear question> > The picture of the sandles shows
> they are open at the
> >back. I personally> would not want to wear these on the
> trail as I look for
> >all around protection> of my feet when on trails like
> those at Philmont.> >
> >As to what Philmont will allow, you would do well to ask
> them ahead of>
> >time. Email them the link to the picture and get their
> opinion.> > Joe
> >Jansen> JAJansenJr@gmail.com> Philmont 1965; 1978> (who
> both times wore
> >hiking boots, although around camp wore> the boots with
> the laces not
> >tightly bound in order to let the feet move more> freely
> in the boot which
> >allowed the feet to breathe)> > On 6/21/07, Jim Wiscombe
> <
> >JWiscombe@concreteservicessac.com> wrote:> >> >> > I
> know Philmont's stand
> >on sandals, but how do they view then new breed of> >
> closed toe
> >sandals....> >> > http://www.rei.com/product/701676> >>
> > I have minor
> >feet issues; Tailor's Bunion, not bad but after walking
> with> > 30+ lbs of
> >weight for 6-8 hours the sides of my feet get swollen
> due to the> > constant
> >rubbing. These new cross breed shoes do not cause your
> feet to> > sweat
> >anywhere near as much as even trail shoes, but are
> listed as sandals.> >> >
> >any thoughts?> >> >> >> >> > Jim> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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