[Philmont] Trek News??

For those who completed Trek 8 and for those who will in the near
future the Philsearch project
(http://www.troop6bsa.org/?cmd=philsearch) needs photographs for
selected camps on this itinerary. Look for the little camera icon,
which designates photos needed.

For everyone who has completed a trek and for those who will in the
near future I hope you will share your photos for use on the
Philsearch project.

The Philsearch project is helping crews "Be Prepared" for Philmont and
allows everyone (current and former crew members, as well as all
others interested) to
"see" Philmont.

This project has come a long way with the help of many, but can become even
more valuable with additional photos.

I also hope some of the excellent text in Jim Williams' post would be
great to include in Philsearch, particularly some of the reasoning in
selecting details of
the routes they took.

Joe Jansen
JAJansenJr@gmail.com\
Philmont 1965; 1978

On 6/30/07, john blanke <of708jb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Thanks, this is great. We have only one advisor that has experienced
> Philmont so your comments will be most helpful. We are looking forward to
> the trip and ready or not we leave 7/7 for Philmont.
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> John
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> Jim Williams <jim.williams2@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I think Trek 8 was a good choice with lots of things to do.
>
> All camps had plenty of water nearby, even the trail camps, so water was
> never a problem. When you get to Clear Creek, check with the staff to make
> sure that there is still water at Red Hills, that way you won't have to pack
> extra over Mt. Phillips. The creek at Red Hills was runnning strong and
> clear.
>
> The first day is short, but there are several stream crossings that are deep
> enough to top your boots if you keep them on. Several of our guys had
> plastic/foam Croc type camp shoes that we shared to get across. They won't
> let you cross barefoot. Take the time to tour the Kit Carson home, it's
> worth the time.
>
> On day 2 we took a minor detour to Abreu to do the program there. There is
> a Cantina to get root beer and the program (Mexican Homesteading) is fun.
> The detour added about 2 miles to the length of the hike, but it was worth
> it. Be prepared for a vigorous climb to get to Toothache Springs, not bad,
> but it's mostly in the sun in the afternoon. We got water at the spring,
> just uphill from the campsite. You also will pass by Zastrow during the
> hike, so you could opt for the program there instead, which I believe is
> Land Navigation (GPS).
>
> Day 3 you hike past several nice views of the Tooth of Time. The hike to
> the climbing area at Miner's Park is worth it just for the view, even if you
> don't feel like climbing. Miner's Park has purified water from the spigot.
>
> On day 4 we stopped for the program at Crater Lake to do Continental Tie and
> Lumber and had lunch. Again worth the time, since Lower Bonito is a trail
> camp. There is a spring at Lower Bonito also for water.
>
> Day 5 you pass through Fish Camp where you can tour the Fishing Lodge and
> tie flies and can fish if you have the time, and ends at Apache Springs for
> your 2 day layover.
>
> At Apache Springs we had our conservation project which was clearing
> campsites of wood debris. They offer a sunset hike to the top of the
> mountain. The view was nice, but an advisor tipped us off that there is
> still a large snowfield up there with several feet of snow still. Since the
> kids didn't want to hike, us old guys packed a couple of large ziplock bags,
> filled them with snow, then surprised them with a snowball fight when we
> returned. HIGHLY recommended! We all had fun with it. I also recommend
> the sweat lodge.
>
> The next 2 days are reletively short hikes with program at Crooked Creek and
> Clear Creek. Altitude becomes more apparent on these days. We lost and
> advisor and a Scout to altitude sickness at these 2 camps. They were able
> to rejoin us later. Water at Commanche is from the stream nearby, and from
> the Spigot at Clear Creek.
>
> Day 10 is over Mt. Phillips. The approach from the back side is VERY steep,
> so start early to beat the thunderstorms, it's slow going.
>
> From Red Hills we originally planned to hike following the ridge over the 3
> major peaks. The Staff at Clear creek suggested a different route, since
> the peaks route was a dry route and very rugged. We followed their
> suggested route, which was over Big Red in the morning, then down the trail
> to Middle Fork and passed the Hunting Lodge. I would definately recommend
> this route as it's a long day (9 miles) and is all down hill after Big Red,
> unless your crew wants to bag the peaks. We had time to tour the Hunting
> Lodge and the trail takes you passed Cathedral Rock which is very beautiful.
>
> The last day is a LONG one. We left Clarks Fork at 6:00am and had breakfast
> on the trail. We opted for the switchback trail down tooth ridge, but it is
> very drawn out. Many suggested the Pasture Trail down the side of the
> Tooth, but it looked really steep, and we had several complaining their
> knees hurt, so we opted for the easier, but longer route. We topped off our
> water at the spring on Schaffers Pass, and we were glad we did, as many were
> almost out by the end of the trail.
>
> Sorry for being so long-winded...You'll have a great time! Let me know if
> you need anything else.
>
> Jim
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:Philmont@troop47.com]On Behalf Of john
> blanke
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:59 PM
> To: Philmont List Member
> Subject: [Philmont] Trek News??
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> We leave July 7 for Philmont and will be on Trek 8. Do you have any other
> info you can share with us about that trek?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> Jim Williams <jim.williams2@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> We just returned from a great 2 weeks at Philmont. I'll add more in the
> next day or two, but here are a few items...
>
> We did trek #8 in the South country. Lots of camps are reporting bear
> sightings, but we did not see one ourselves (except from the train window),
> and did not hear of any problems from said sightings.
>
> Fire danger was low when we started, and was at medium when we returned to
> base, but all camps are encouraging making small fires in the fire rings.
> All ashes must be packed out at least a 1/2 mile from camp to be dispursed
> in the woods. We made a fire almost every night.
>
> The weather was beautiful with afternoon storms just now starting to show
> up. We were rain free for the first 8 days.
>
> Mosquitos were only a minor problem at the higher elevations. Put on your
> bug spray before hiking Mt. Phillips, because they would attack every time
> you stopped to rest (which was a lot in our case, lol).
>
> Trails were in great shape, except those around Mt. Phillips (which were
> horribly rocky).
>
> Philstaff was energetic and fun.
>
> We did our cons project at Apache Creek. They are clearing campsites of
> dead wood and trees to lower the fire risk.
>
> That's it for now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:Philmont@troop47.com]On Behalf Of
> Michael_J_Conkey@nbc.gov
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 7:19 AM
> To: Philmont List Member
> Subject: [Philmont] Trek News??
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>
> OK, I'm dying here . Some crews have already come off the
> trail, any news about conditions? Location of Cons Projects? Etc.? My
> Philstaff-provided info is pretty scarce.....
>
> YIS.
>
> Mike Conkey ('76, '02, '04, and '07 in six wake-ups)
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Received on Sat Jun 30 03:50:01 2007