RE: [Philmont]: Trail / Distance questions

Trek 4 doesn't go from Mt. Phillips to Cimarroncito (at least not in the
same day). From Clear Creek you go up and over Phillips to Cypher's Mine.
The next day you go from Cypher's to Cito for program before heading up to
Websters Park for the night. I would agree that the downhill off Phillips
to Cypher's is tough - and there is no water source between Clear Creek and
Cypher's. The North Fork Uracca trail between Cypher's and the Hunting
Lodge is beautiful (we did our cons project there last summer), but there
are something like 72 stream crossings.

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Trail / Distance questions

We took trek #4 in 2004. The trip from Mt Phillips to Cimarroncito is a
long one. Have plenty of water. The downhill duration wears on you as much
if not more than the climb up Mt Phillips from Clear Creek. Poles
definitely helped me. You will cross the same creek about 40 some times
with the zig zag trail. I don't regret it a bit though. It was a beautiful
hike (as was the whole ranch!). You will definitely appreciate coming up
on Cimarroncito. That was a fantastic and pretty staffed camp. Our feet
were barking by the time we got there. One word of caution. the trail
coming off Mt Phillips heading to Cito is not very well marked, and the
trail is hard to find/stay on. Study your map and know exactly where you
are on the trail and you'll be ok. We lost the trail, and ended up on what
we thought was the trail. About 10 -15 minutes straight down, we realized
we were off the beaten path. Full packs, and 15 minutes down equalled about
a 30 minute back up to the top to regroup at a location we could ID on the
map. Have fun. Trek #4 was fun for us all.

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Received on Mon Mar 14 19:05:28 2005