Re: [Philmont]: Water Filters/Purifiers

We use the MSR Waterworks II. When I bought these filters back in 01, this
was the filter the USN Seals used in 3rd world countries. Last time I
checked my map NM was not in a 3rd world country. I haven't been out there
since last August though. It is a cattle ranch. We have used them each
trip and all practice hikes for Philmont each trip. No one has ever gotten
sick from the water. I wish I could remember where I was when we were
pumping water at in 02, a kid came by and just put his Nalgene under the
flow over the board where the water was backed up at. He just filled it up.
Then he dropped his 2 cap full's of Polar Pur into it, shook it up, bleed
the threads and started back to his camp. Then I asked him if that was all
he was going to do to his water? He said like nothing was wrong and it
wasn't, "nope" and walked off. As he walked off I told him he was a better
man than me! Now that I have been there 3 times and going back in June, he
was right. We grab water at every source, staffed camps and creeks or rivers
out there. Never pass a water source without filling up. You will fill up
each time after you have ran out of water on the trail somewhere out there.
If you water for the next day, just Micro Pur the water at night. It will
be ready the next morning. I have never filtered and Polar Purred or now
Micro Purred. I have just bought a MSR Miox. I will let you know how it
works later on.
Steve MacIntyre
Troop 777
Hermitage, TN
Philmont Advisor 02, 03, 05, 06

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Preston" <prestonar@bellsouth.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Water Filters/Purifiers

> It's my understanding that the ceramic filters remove 99.9% of all
> bacteria. From what I have read, the only advantage to a purifier is that
> it will also remove viruses. If anyone knows of dangerous viruses in U.S.
> water, I would like to hear from them. The new treatment tablets sound
> like a good idea and we will try them this Spring and perhaps leave the
> filters at home. We took the Katadyn treatment tablets on a week-long
> canoe trip last summer but didn't use them because the water sources were
> all cold springs and the treatment time was too long. I would like to
> hear what others have experienced.
>
> Dan Preston
> Louisville, KY
> On Mar 20, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Pfeifer Randy-QA4427 wrote:
>
>> Wow. I'm surprised that your ranger would recommend or approve of using
>> a filter-alone instead of the Philmont recommended water treatment
>> scheme (then Polar Pure). A filter will remove all the big stuff but
>> won't remove the small stuff. Polar Pure will kill the little stuff but
>> won't kill all the big stuff (e.g., Crypto). A purifier or a
>> combination of filter and iodine (or other) will kill/remove it all.
>> You either got lucky or know what's in the water at Philmont (and it's
>> nature). I've never felt knowledgeable enough to bet my life on one or
>> the other. We've always used both a filter and Polar Pure to be sure.
>>
>>
>> Randy Pfeifer

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