The Phil-list Mar_2006: RE: [Philmont]: Philmont Meals

From: Troop 6 Webmaster <troop6webmaster@comcast.net>
Date: Fri Mar 24 2006 - 22:29:40 CST

Phillips Junction, or PJ is a commissary, shower house and trading pst ...
no camp, no activities, just a food p/u. In '04 Trek 4's food pickups were
labeled PJ1 and PJ2 (and UG later in the trek), the first was just enough
food to get you through your stay at Beaubien, you sent a runner down to PJ
during the first day of your stay, the second you picked up as you went past
PJ on the way from Beaubien to Crooked Creek. In 05 and later it appears
that the two PJ pickups have been combined. The 2004 photos on the website
below are all trek 4. Dan's site is a great resource.

Jim Thompson
HA ASM T6
PSR '74(16), '04(4), '06(26)
www.troop6bsa.org?cmd=philmont

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com]On
Behalf Of Joseph Jansen
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:52 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Philmont Meals

Don't rule out the possibility of a trek being rerouted mid season. Not
saying it happened but
the treks definitely change from year to year, for a variety of reasons
(largely related to
conservation issues).

I recall a lot of uncertainty in 1965 as a crew member as to what we were
going to be able
to trek, because of the "great flood" that had recently occurred.
(According to Minor Huffman's
book of recollections, Joe Davis, a legendary professional Scouter, was
welcomed to Philmont by the "great flood" around this time).

Dan Yoder has info on Trek 4 at

http://www.danyoder.com/philmont/trek.asp?trek=4

It mentions Beaubien but not Phillips Junction.

Joe Jansen
JAJansenJr@gmail.com
Philmont 1965; 1978

>From: "Donald S. Roberts" <donald@hummellawfirm.com>
>Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Philmont Meals
>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:59:45 -0800
>
>All I can say, Pete, is one of us is very confused (I certainly do not rule
>out it being me). Our itinerary took us nowhere near either Beaubien nor
>Phillips Junction.
>I guess I'm going to have to go look at my stuff and make sure 4 was what
>we
>were on, Maybe we had a different itinerary. I sure thought it was 4.
>Good
>thing I had the kids with me to keep us on the trek :-)
>
>The second thing to go is the memory...
>Regards
>Don
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com]On
>Behalf Of Pete Swiggum
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:47 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Philmont Meals
>
>
> Don,
> We did Trek 4 in 2005 as well. We came off the trail on August 4th,
>however.
>
> Phillips Junction was right on the way to Crooked Creek, but they had
>told
>us at Philmont HQ, as well as at Beaubien, that we couldn't pick up on the
>way, but that we had to pick up the day before.
>
> Soooooooo, that's what we did.
>
> After our conservation project, four of us hiked DOWNHILL to PJ as fast
>as
>we could to reload. When I got there, I asked why we couldn't just pick up
>in the morning on the way through. The PJ pholks told me, "That's not a
>problem. You can do that." Arggggghhhhhhhh...
>
> They told me there had been changeover in staff at PJ and things had
>been
>changed. They wrote me a note to take back to the Beaubien staff telling
>them that anyone on Trek 4 (or any other Trek taking them through PJ the
>next day) could pick up on the way and wouldn't have to make a special
>trip.
>
> Then... we hiked all the way back UPHILL to Beaubien, got to the
>chuckwagon dinner in time (they held up the entire meal for us to get back
>-
>maybe 10 minutes late), and then we talked to the Beaubien camp director
>after dinner. He understood clearly the situation and made the change
>immediately.
>
> THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS THIS:
> How did you include Ute Gulch on your itinerary? We sent four guys to
>make the roundtrip there and back from Cito while we were waiting for rock
>climbing. (I'm thinking you hiked Hidden Valley?)
>
> Pete Swiggum
> Green Bay, WI
> Philmont 2005
> ICWTGBTP!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donald S. Roberts
> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:10 AM
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Philmont Meals
>
>
> We had itinerary 4 in 2005 and had two 4 day food pickups as our
>biggest
>pickups, and the commissaries were directly on our path, no side hikes
>needed. If they have gone to a six day pickup for 2006, that would be a
>pretty big change to itinerary 4. We had a hard enough time finding room
>for 4 days of food, I can't imagine having to carry 6 days worth.
>
> Don Roberts
> 808-K Itinerary 4 2005
> Fullerton, CA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Houser
>
> You pick up all of the meals that will last until your next
>comissary
>pickup. Sometimes they have you are scheduled to miss a comissary. This
>year, on Trek 4, we had to start out with 6 days of food, even though we
>were within striking distance of a comissary on about day 3.
> Andre Houser
> DeSoto, TX
>
>
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