[philmont] Wilderness First Aid

This is unfortunate.
 
I took my last WFA through Wilderness Medicine Institute/NOLS and it was
hands down better than anything I have ever received from American Red Cross.
Better and more experienced instructors, better materials, better practice
scenarios, ....
 
Steve Wagner
 
 
In a message dated 3/6/2008 11:36:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bsa.rec.law@gmail.com writes:

 
No.
I’m saying the new Philmont first aid requirement will not allow the Good
Sam law to protect someone in states. Even a WMS course would not qualify.
Example:
CN law lists who can be covered:
A paid or volunteer firefighter or police officer, a teacher or other school
personnel on the school grounds or in the school building or at a school
function, a member of a ski patrol, a lifeguard, a conservation officer, patrol
officer or special police officer of the Department of Environmental
Protection, or emergency medical service personnel, who has completed a course in
first aid offered by the American Red Cross, the American Heart Association,
the National Ski Patrol, the Department of Public Health or any director of
health, as certified by the agency or director of health offering the course,
and who renders emergency first aid to a person in need thereof, shall not be
Illinois does the same:
Any person who is currently certified in first aid by the American Red
Cross, the American Heart Association, or the National Safety Council and who
KS
American Red Cross, by the American heart association, by the mining
enforcement and safety administration of the bureau of mines of the department of
interior, by the national safety council or by any instructor-coordinator, as
defined in _K.S.A. 65-6112_
(http://www.lexisnexis.com.cmclibraries.coloradomtn.edu/us/lnacademic/mungo/lexseestat.do?bct=A&risb=21_T2517270221&homeCsi=6718&A
=0.10319188911344568&&citeString=KSCODE%2065-6112&countryCode=USA)
MD is only ARC it looks like.
Disclaimer: I have not reviewed the legal decisions about these acts which
may expand the coverage provided. I’m just quoting from the statute. And I’m
not licensed in any of the states I quoted above so I could be wrong.
So in some states none of the courses would qualify unless the person was a
physician, EMT, nurse, etc. I’ve been working on this for a year now and
still haven’t got to the bottom. It is a takeoff on my research on epinephrine.
Jim
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-----Original Message-----
From: philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Lemley
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:29 PM
To: philmont List Member
Subject: [philmont] Wilderness First Aid
Jim,
Are you saying that the new Philmont required first aid training is related
to Good Samaritan laws?
Also, would this course qualify?:
Wilderness First Aid Basics
Wilderness First Aid: Basic Level
The Emergency Care and Safety Institute
Sponsored by the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons And the Wilderness
Medical Society
16 hour course taught by an MD who is a Wilderness First Responder and
member of the Wilderness Medical Society
Thanks,
Rob Lemley
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From: Jim Moss <bsa.rec.law@gmail.com>
To: philmont List Member <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 7:04:57 PM
Subject: [philmont] Wilderness First Aid
This is a conundrum for me. I’ve researching Good
Samaritan laws. Several of the state laws say the first aid to be protected
by
the Good Sam act requires training by a national organization (the Am Red
Cross, BSA or National Ski Patrol.)
Most wilderness first aid courses are not taught by these organizations.
Jim
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From:philmont@troop47.com [mailto:philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of
kirkmaes
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:59 PM
To: philmont List Member
Subject: [philmont] Wilderness First Aid
Don't forget that there is a new requirement this year forWilderness First
Aid. At least one (if not more) crew members needs to take thecourse and be
wilderness first aid certified. This is a 16 hour course that youcan usually
get through your local American Red Cross Chapter. As far asI know only
Physicians are exempt. Nurses, EMTs, Paramedics and Fireman arestill on the hook
despite their experience.
Kirk Maes, MD
(taking the course in April despite my potential exempt status)
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