Re: [Philmont]: Stoves

I, we never take the pump out of the bottles except to fill the bottle with
fuel.
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From: "Troop 681 scout" <troop681@hotmail.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Stoves

> I just have a question that came up last year on my PHILMONT trek. We had
3
> whisperlite stove in my crew. (2 to use and 1 for back up).
>
> One of the advisors carried one of the stoves and ALWAYS left the stove
> attachment ON the fuel bottle. He said, "why take it off when it will
just
> be put back on that night." He hiked the full ten days with the stove
> attachment ON the bottle.
>
> I had always taken the stove attachement off in my years of backpacking
and
> trained the boys in my troop to also always take off the stove attachment
> and replace the fuel bottle cap, (I also had the boys ALWAYS put the fuel
> bottle cap IN the stove bag for safe keeping)
>
> What does this group think?? Is it safe to HIKE with the stove attachment
> ON the bottle the entire time?? Is is safe to have that preassure ON the
> fuel bottle all the time??
>
> I know this may open a "can of opinion" but I'm just curious what you
think.
>
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> www.troop681.org
>
> Kim Pigorsch
> Membership Chairmun (sic)
> and Eagle Scout Advisor
> Troop 681
>
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>
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> >From: "Karl Hebert" <eagle355@bellsouth.net>
> >Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
> >Subject: RE: [Philmont]: Stoves
> >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:38:28 -0400
> >
> >Based on our experience on a 2002 trek (704-E2), my advice is to take
> >the three stoves. We too had three Whisperlight stoves on that trek,
> >one fouled on day one, a second fouled on day eight. Although our crew
> >had a lot of experience with these stoves prior to Philmont and they
> >were all in good working condition before we departed, I attribute both
> >failures to the crew's rather careless handling and storage during the
> >trek. Not putting the stoves back in their bag, letting the feed tube
> >drag in the dirt, etc. Dust and dirt were the real problems to deal
> >with. Being the good advisor I simply offered up my suggestions and let
> >the crew deal with the failure. We all survived and were well fed, no
> >harm done.
> >
> >Karl Hebert
> >Troop 39
> >Cumming, GA
> >2004 608-A1 Trek 26
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
> >Behalf Of Michael_J_Conkey@fws.gov
> >Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:42 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> >Subject: [Philmont]: Stoves
> >
> >
> >On our 2002 trek, we brought 3 Whisperlight stoves, 3 smaller fuel
> >bottles
> >and 2 large fuel bottles (for 12 people). We NEVER used the third
> >stove,
> >never even took it out of the bag. We RARELY used the second stove (we
> >used the boiling bag method and cooked all meals together in one large
> >pot). We also had way too much fuel, considering that we could refill
> >at
> >our 2 commissary stops. We also had no real stove problems, other than
> >a
> >slightly clogged jet on the last day which I cleaned easily.
> >
> >My question to the list, we are discussing leaving the third stove and 1
> >each of the fuel bottles at home this year to save some crew gear weight
> >(going with 2 stoves and 3 fuel bottles). We have a lighter weight crew
> >this time around and are trying to shed weight where ever possible. The
> >reasoning, we have never had a stove issue we couldn't fix via field
> >maintenance and in a pinch, we could survive on 1 stove. In a real
> >pinch,
> >we would end up getting some staff help OR just hydrating the food
> >without
> >heating the water (still treated, of course). What is the list's
> >thoughts
> >on this approach? What are the realistic chances that BOTH stoves would
> >poop out? We have backpacking and camped with them numerous times and
> >NEVER had a real problem. My SVEA is almost 30 years old, has been used
> >100's of times at a variety of altitudes and conditions, and I have
> >NEVER
> >encountered a problem I couldn't correct via field maintenance. I would
> >anticipate the Whisperlights to be similar in their reliability?
> >Thanks.
> >
> >YIS.
> >
> >Mike Conkey
> >2004 Trek 716A, Itinerary 11
> >2002 Trek 719A, Itinerary 4
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