Re: [Philmont]: Shipping stoves to Philmont

I have been taken off flights in Santiago Chile (Aconcagua) and Minneapolis MN (boundary waters trip) by security when stoves and/or stove bottles where found in my baggage. Security x-rayed my baggage saw the stoves and had me removed from the flight to have the luggage unlocked to inspect them. In Santiago I made the flight, in Minneapolis I did not.

United used to ask if they could smell it about 10 years ago. About 5 years ago they started asking if they ever had fuel in them. Now they are saying are they brand new and in the box. And these are at baggage check in.

Last August I had a meeting with the FAA enforcement team in SLC at the Outdoor Retailer show. The FAA had purchased a booth at the show so they could educate retailers in educating their customers. They were quite explicit. No stoves, stove bottles, etc of any kind unless they were brand new, in the box and never used. While they were they did a surprise inspection at SLC airport and caught several people who the prosecuted.

I don't believe I would risk it. When it is so easy to have UPS or FedEx take them for you. They leave two weeks earlier and get home a couple of weeks later. So what.

Jim

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Received on Wed May 5 04:10:42 2004