RE: [Philmont]: electronics?

I concur with the last "camaraderie" statement. Our scouts (in 2001) had no electronics from the time they left home. The camaraderie began on the train ride (lots of cards, usually Hearts), which worked out great. We haven't dealt with it yet for our 2005 trip to Philmont, but I will propose "leave the electronics home" for the entire contingent.

M.

Mike Hirschi
Committee Chair, Troops 101 & 314
Prairie Fire District, Prairielands Council, BSA

2001 730-H3 (trek 13) and 2005 608-??

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com]On
Behalf Of Bill Lentz
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:34 AM
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Subject: RE: [Philmont]: electronics?

Can't tell you which way to go, but I can give you a small anecdote: My son, who turned 16 on the way to Philmont, made the following observation on about Day 5 or 6: "You know Dad, I just realized that I haven't even thought about video games or the internet since I've been on the trail." I think it kind of startled him because he thought it would be a challenge to be away so long.

I don't think we had any electronics on the trail (except cell phones, but I'm not going to start that thread again!) We may have had some on the trip, but left them in cars or lockers.

The camaraderie from sitting around (when you have time), and playing cards or talking is much greater than sitting around staring at each others headphones.

Bill
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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of rsafl61660@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:04 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: [Philmont]: electronics?

I want to start off by saying that I am opposed to unneeded electronic gear while on Scouting excursions. Having said that, I have been approached by the youth in regards to them bringing 2 way radios.(walkie-talkies) I told them that though they may seem small, the ounces up if they're considering them for on the trail. They claim they would be useful if we got separated. I told them we would have no reason to get separated on the trail if we are hiking together. They said they would be useful on the train and on the lengthy lay overs at the train station for communication and safety. I personally find them somewhat obnoxious when used by others excessively in public. They really don't fit on the trail either. Especially when considering that I'm actually going to get away from my cell phone, tv, etc. The problem is, the other 2 adults are not as hard set against taking them, especially for use enroute to Philmont. They have also told the boys they could take their walkmans.(I'm not sure if Gameboys have been addressed....yet!) Need input to see if I'm out of line, and /or support and ammunition to battle the issue with the other adults and youth. Thanks for input.
PS...To get a clearer picture of our crew, their will be 3 adults and 9 youth, 1 is 14, the rest are 16.

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