Re: [Philmont]: electronics?

Actually, I disagree. As a GPS advocate, I would say that there is very
little real overlap between what a map and compass are used for at Philmont
and what a GPS is typically used for. Stand still with a GPS and have it
tell you which way North is. It is a powerful tool when used in conjunction
with a map and compass, or in the hands of someone who really understands
it. Put it in the hands of an untrained scout in the place of a map and
compass? They are going to get lost.

Alternatively, bringing a GPS and taking the opportunity at Philmont to
teach the crew how it works and what it can do, and you now have scouts that
understand UTM or Lat/Lon and their usefulness on maps. Not to mention a
real cool record of EXACTLY where they have been.

Alan Hamm
Troop 8
Bethesda, MD

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Subject: RE: [Philmont]: electronics?

> I think Don ultimately "saw the light" and made the correct clarification
to the
> use of the term "electonic" device. I understood the original post to
mean
> electronic "entertainment" devices --- things which could ultimately and
quite
> often do, distract from the Philmont experience. I don't believe anyone
in this
> discussion was suggesting elimination of flashlights, cameras, or some
other
> *useful* technology ... electronic or otherwise. As for the use of GPS ---
we
> discourage it simply because it does little to promote an understanding of
> navigation. It's a bit like handing out handheld calculators to 2nd grade
> students to teach them simple multiplication and division.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Brad
> Troop 76
> Manhattan, KS
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> From: "Donald S. Roberts" <donald@hummellawfirm.com>
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: electronics?
> Date sent: Wed, 5 May 2004 10:30:10 -0700
>
> > > From: Donald S. Roberts [mailto:donald@hummellawfirm.com]
> >
> > Oh, and speaking of not banning *all* electronic devices, how
> > did I forget that handiest of all electronic devices, the
> > FLASHLIGHT. I'll bet Brad brings one of those too. I even think it
> > is listed in the SCOUT ESSENTIALS in the handbook.
> >
> > Let's face it, NO ONE wants to ban *all* electronic devices, not
> > even Brad. What we're talking about is electronic entertainment, and
> > electronic tools (like GPS and hand held radios) that are way too easy
> > to treat as entertainment devices.
> >
> > Singling out "electronics" for a ban is misguided at worst,
> > misleading at best.
> >
> > Regards
> > Don Roberts
> >
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