Re: [Philmont]: Enough water?

I have previously been urged by the rangers to carry the 2 1/2 gallon collapsable water containers and did so on the first 2 trips to Philmont. I think this is just too difficult. I have everyone carry 4 quart bottles when going to the dry camps. The rest ot the time two of these are empty. I actually get 1 liter water bottles from the hospital and give several to everyone. These are very light weight and pretty compact. We eat dinner and clean at the last water source and then have lunch for dinner. I also have everyone drink at least 6 bottles of water before leaving the last water source. I think this spreads the burden more evenly and keeps from just killing the poor scout who tries to carry the 2 1/2 gallon container. This worked out very well for us in 2000, and I plan to do this again in 2004. This has seemed to be plenty of water once we have had our main water usage at the last water source. In your case I would believe that will be at Clark's Fork. As I recall it is level or down hill from Cimaroncito to Clarks Fork with a climb from there up to Shaffer's Peak, but not a real difficult one. We will be at Philmont on 7/13 to 7/25.
Charles Goodwin, MD, Scoutmaster Troop 236, Kettering, OH
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:30 PM
  Subject: [Philmont]: Enough water?

  We will be at Philmont in July (721-B2). We had a shake down hike this past weekend, hiking 11 miles Saturday and 5 on Sunday. We practiced cooking methods that we might use at Philmont, bear bag prep, dining fly set up, and simulated lack of water, ( only refilling our containers 1 time even though we had 2-3 other opportunities at the park). I'm concerned about the water situation. We do not plan on bringing water filters. We will only be using Polar Pure, possibly coffee filters or bandanas if silt is an issue. However we will be on trek #5. From what I gather from previous threads, the hike from Cimarroncito to Tooth Ridge is long, tough and water is sometimes lacking. We are not going to carry 2-3 gallon jugs at 8lbs / gallon. The boys are pretty set on that. The water supply from our bottles once we arrived at our camp site on Saturday was marginal, considering we had another 5 miler on Sunday. Since we will not be carrying a large jug of water to the dry camps, what might be recommended for the crew to carry individually? I'm thinking 4 quarts/ liters per person is not too much, but is it enough? Looking for some experienced feed back.

  Bob S. Indy,
  Philmont '74, and soon to be '04

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Received on Wed May 26 17:52:29 2004