RE: [Philmont]: Co-ed/Venture complications, was 4 MAN TENTS

We might be mixing apples and oranges here, or venturing and boy scouts. I
see two different issues being talked about, tenting and roster.

1) Who is listed as an Adult on your roster? 18 and older is listed as
an adult on roster. To count towards the maximum of 4 adults - 18 to 21 can
be counted either way.

2) Tenting, all over 18 must tent with someone over 18 (unless person
under 18 is tenting with parent or guardian). YP does not specify gender
unless recently updated. Meaning father can tent with daughter or mother
could tent with son. Here's exact wording. "Separate accommodations. When
camping, no youth is permitted to sleep in the tent of an adult other that
his or her own parent or guardian."

Regards,

Doug

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
Behalf Of DTADSEN@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 8:28 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Co-ed/Venture complications, was 4 MAN TENTS

18-20 year old males is not as gray an area as you would think from
Philmont's perspective.

My last trip to Philmont we had an 19 year male in one crew.At advisor
check-in we were highly, strongly all most told that we must consider him as
an adult for sleeping/tenting purposes. In no way did they want him sleeping
with 15-16 year olds. We had no common family members so sleeping with
father or a brother was not an option, and we carried and extra Philtent.
However, they were more than willing to considered him a youth as far as the
crew make-up was concerned when they consider how many youth and adults we
had.

We had a crew total of 12, 4 males over 21 and what I thought would be 8
youth.

NO.. we had 5 adults for tenting purposes and 4 adults for the overall adult
to youth ratio.

Go figure!

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Received on Tue May 10 02:14:03 2005