RE: [Philmont]: Creature Comfort

From: Terry Pogue
> Since everyone carrys a pad (either self inflating or closed cell) why
not use
> Therma Rest's chair conversion kit. Its an envelope that you insert your
pad
> and it becomes a chair. Crazy Creek chairs were good in their day and for
> non trail use but the conversion kit is great - why carry a chair and then
a pad
> when for 10 additional ozs you can have both. We told our guys to take the
> Crazy Creeks back to the store and buy the Trekker Chair. I've used mine
> for 10 years all over N. America. Campmor doesn't have them right now
> but Cascade Designs has them: 29.95 for 20inch and 25 inch. I use mine
> with the Z rest, love it.

Not that I disagree with your reasoning, but I would say this is not a good
idea in bear country. The advantage of a crazy creek or similar and a
separate
sleeping pad is that if you use the thermarest conversion, you have a high
likelihood (especially with the boys) they will use it when they eat, spill
on it and turn it into a smellable that goes in the bear bag. Now that
makes
for a bad nights sleep!

So, as much as I like the idea of saving weight, I'm not sure the conversion
is a good idea for Philmont treks. Besides, I used my crazy creek knockoff
to put under my pillow to give me just a bit more neck support, and it sure
made things comfortable (of course, if I use it when eating, that option is
going to go out the window, but for now, it is still clean :-)). I slept
well this
weekend on our prep. Since it was cold weather camping (we were on snow
at 9500 feet), I brought the closed cell pad rather than the thermarest, so
a
conversion wouldn't have worked anyway :-).

YMMV

Regards
Don Roberts
Philtrek 05 808-K
Fullerton, CA

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Received on Tue May 31 13:19:00 2005