[philmont] odd number of participants

> It is ridiculous. However, Philmont does not check birth certificates (at
> least not yet) when dealing with the 18-20 crowd. Sometime ago, someone
> either on this list or the Scouts-L list posted an incredibly humorous
> email concerning this very situation. If you are out there, please
> re-post. It is worth a laugh at how terribly tight we seem to wrap
> ourselves around the flagpole.
>
> Cooper Wright
> Warrenton, VA

Possibly this.....

A humorous look at the BSA's youth protection rules during a Philmont trek.
     By Calvin H. Gray

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Consider this scenario with a parent having three sons registered in a
troop, ages 15, 17 & 18 and going to Philmont this coming summer. The
parent asks the Scoutmaster several questions about tenting arrangements
and showering facilities at Philmont.

Parent: Can the 15 year old tent with his 17 year old brother?

SM: Yes.

Parent: Can the 15 year old tent with his 18 year old brother?

SM: No, but he might be able to do so if you sign a legal document making
the 18 year old the 15 year old's guardian during the trek.

Parent (with strange look on his face): Okay, I'll consider that.

Parent: Can the 17 year old tent with his 18 year old brother?

SM: No, but we can try the guardian thing again.

Parent: But they share a room at home.

SM: They can't do that at Philmont.

Parent (with an even stranger look on his face): Okay, let's move on.

SM: Fine.

Parent: Well, with whom can the 18 year old tent?

SM: Any other adult leader.

Parent: You mean my 18 year son can't tent with his 17 year old brother but
he can tent with a 50 year old adult?

SM: That's right.

Parent (after shaking head several times): Okay, one other question about
tenting.

SM: Okay.

Parent: The 17 year old turns 18 during the trek; what happens then?

SM: Then, he'll have to move into a tent with an adult.

Parent: How about with his older brother?

SM: Fine.

Parent: So, if the 17 year old starts out tenting with his 15 year old
brother, he will have to move in with his 18 year old brother or another
adult when he turns 18?

SM: Correct.

Parent: Okay, let me think about this for a few days. I believe I
understand but I'll let you know if I have additional questions. Can we
move on to showering arrangements?

SM (with great anticipation): By all means.

Parent: Can the 15 year old shower with his 17 year old brother?

SM: Yes.

Parent: Can the 15 year old shower with his 18 year old brother?

SM: No.

Parent: How about if we do the guardian thing?

SM (after thinking a bit): No, I don't think so.

Parent: Can the 15 year old shower with his 17 year old brother and other
17 year old boys in the Philmont crew?

SM: Yes.

Parent: But he can't shower with his 18 year old brother?

SM: That's correct.

Parent: Can the 17 year old shower with his 18 year old brother?

SM: No.

Parent: If we do the guardian thing?

SM: No.

Parent: But they go to church camp and shower together there; why not at
Philmont?

SM: Can't do it at Philmont; BSA Youth Protection rules.

Parent: But they are on the same baseball team at school and they shower
together after each practice and game.

SM: Can't do it at Philmont; BSA Youth Protection rules.

Parent: So, whom can the 18 year old shower with?

SM: Any other male camper at least age 18.

Parent: Even you?

SM: Yes.

Parent: And other 50 year old adult males?

SM: Yes.

Parent: I think I'll save some time and not ask about the showering
arrangements after the 17 year old turns 18.

SM: Thanks!

Parent (while walking away and muttering): Thanks for the info, I believe
my 17 and 18 year old sons will forget about going to Philmont with the
troop and go with their Venturing Crew instead. He turns around and asks
the Scoutmaster, "Do you know if Venturing has similar rules on tenting
and shower arrangements?"

SM (while running away): Aaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee!

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Received on Mon May 21 11:52:27 2007