From: Dr. Charles Goodwin (doc236@erinet.com)
Date: Thu Nov 14 2002 - 16:33:14 CST
We have also used a variet of activities. We try to do something for the
older scouts each summer. These have included:
Appalachian Trail in the Shenandoah Valley in 1989 (13 scouts and leaders)
along with the National Jamboree (10 scouts and leaders)
Appalachian Trail in southern Virginia in 1991(42 scouts and leaders)
Philmont in 1992 (51 scouts and leaders)
National Jamboree in 1993 (32 scouts and leaders)
Appalachian Trails in New Hampshire in 1994 (47 scouts and leaders)
World Jamboree in Holland in 1995 (8 scouts and leaders)
Philmont in 1996 (37 scouts and leaders) also C&O Canal Pathway (17 scouts
and leaders)
National Jamboree in 1997 (19 scouts and leaders)
Tinnerman Canoe Base in 1998 (36 scouts and leaders)
Sea Base in 1999 (24 scouts and leaders) World Jamboree in 1999 (2 scouts
and leaders)
Philmont in 2000 (48 scouts and leaders)
National Jamboree in 2001 (14 scouts and leaders)
Sea Base in 2002 (40 scouts and leaders) The reservation was hard to get
this time.
Tinnerman Canoe Base in 2003 (40 scouts and leaders)
We will be selected an alternate to Philmont for 2004 on next Tuesday
The Appalachian Trail trips are fairly economical to do.
The troop has ranged from 120 to 163 members during this time frame, so I
think having some kind of high adventure program is essential to hold the
interest of the older scouts. We really do not run a true Venture program,
but include high adventure activities for everyone. Standard backpacking
trips are set up to start and end at the same place but with different
lengths of the trail for younger and older scouts. We go whitewater rafting
on the New River almost every year with Class I-III rapids on the upper New
for the younger scouts to run in one- and two-man rubber duckies and Class
II-V rapids for the older scouts to run in rafts. We also run our own 4-day
leadership and scout skills camp each summer which is run by the older
scouts who select and trail the staff with no adult help. This has allowed
us to have older scouts involved with the troop and really run it. I have
had some teenagers function as the "adult advisor" in several areas and do
an extremely good job with it.
Charles Goodwin, MD, Scoutmaster Troop 236 Kettering, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Neff" <rln2@psu.edu>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Where else?
> At 08:22 AM 11/14/02 -0500, Alan Hamm wrote:
>
> >The question is, does anyone have any great high adventure trips they
want
> >to recommend? This needs to be tempered by our location (Mid-Atlantic)
and
> >economic realities.
>
> In addition to Philmont (3x), Jamboree (2x) and Sea Base, my troop has
done
> three home-grown high adventure trips since 1996.
> 1 - a week long canoe trip on the lakes in the Adirondack region of New
> York state. Cost about $200 (included private vehicle transportation and
> canoes. main cost fuel, food, and permits)
> 2 - a week long canoe trip in the Algonquin Provincial Park in Canada.
Cost
> about $300 (included travel by private vehicles (two day drive), canoe
> rentals, permits, camping fees, fuel, food). * this was a great wilderness
> experience!
> 3 - a 16 day trip to Alaska. Cost was less than $1200 per person. The crew
> flew from Pa. to Alaska. Did a variety of activities - sea kayaking, ice
> climbing, backpacking, went to Denali National Park (camped, but did not
> bag the peak), and flew to a village (and camped) above the arctic circle.
> Used guides and rented gear for several of the activities.
>
> For 2004, we were going to do a home-grown trip. Hawaii, New Zealand,
> Australia, England, or southwestern US were on the table for discussion.
As
> we were able to get Philmont reservations, we will likely set aside the
> home grown trip until 2006 (Jamboree 2005).
>
> For 2003 - even though a group of 32 Scouts and 8 leaders are going to Sea
> Base, our Venture Patrol is talking about an additional trip - backpacking
> in the Adirondack's or somewhere else in New England states....
>
> With 70+ Scouts, 15+ trained leaders, and an active committee, our troop
is
> just starting to really to roll. We had a rapid growth phase starting
about
> four years ago. Now that the age balance is getting better, we will have
> more venture patrol members and even more home grown high adventure trips.
> There are so many opportunities (and so little vacations time).
>
> Yours in Scouting,
> Rick Neff
> Scoutmaster, Troop 31
> State College, Pa.
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