From: kevin shanahan (kevinshanahan@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 18 2002 - 10:59:10 CST
That is correct when I went in 2000 my fellow adult leader couldn't handle
the stress and left us at Beubian. They were about to pull us off the trail
until our sister crew from Corpus Christi loaned us their extra Assistant
Scoutmaster. Thanks to these great guys we were able to finish.
Kevin Shanahan
kevinshanahan@hotmail.com
919 460 8606
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>Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
>Subject: Re: [Philmont]: What to say to some parents, SLY FOX?
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:41:05 -0600
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>Our 2001 crew had only two adults -- they were told if something happened
>to one of them they'd be removed from the trail as a minimum of two are
>needed. Thankfully everyone did well the entire trek. Philmont doesn't have
>the resources to provide 'subs'.
>
>
>
> Dewey Hemphill
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> owner-philmont@tro Subject: Re: [Philmont]:
>What to say to some parents, SLY
> op47.com FOX?
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> 11/18/02 10:29 AM
> Please respond to
> philmont
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>BSA National policy REQUIRES 2-deep leadership at all functions. I would
>be
>amazed (and more than a little skeptical) if it wasn't required at
>Philmont.
>
>It is for this reason our troop establishes 8-boy, 4-adult crews. I could
>see
>the possibility of crews starting with only 2 adult leaders, but where the
>level to drop below two, some sort of contingency plan, probably worked out
>in
>advance with the Philmont staff, should be implemented on the spot.
>
>Dewey Hemphill
>--- Allen Corzine <a_sly_fox@msn.com> wrote:
> > I'm the originator of the question which was intended to start
>conversation
> > on the following:
> >
> > Does BSA's two deep leadership policy apply on treks at philmont and if
>so,
> > should you plan on having mutlitples of "2" adults, in case a situation
> > arises, and the group on a trek must separate?
> >
> > I don't know if there is a correct answer. Obviously, you don't want to
> > fill a crew up with adults, but it is a dilema is it not if two deep
> > leadership is to be followed?
> >
> > FIS
> > allen
> >
> > just a sly fox, and remember, my opinion and $ will buy coffee at the
> > trading post
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Alan Thomson <abthomson@goes.com>
> > >Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Philmont]: What to say to some parents, SLY FOX?
> > >Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:08:43 -0500 (EST)
> > >
> > >OOPS - typo! if a "rescue party" splits, one part MAY (not will) no
> > >longer have an adult....
> > >
> > >Obviously, if the rescue party has two adults and must split, an adult
> > >should be with each part.
> > >
> > > > smith.13@nd.edu writes....
> > > >
> > > > So what you are saying, according to the question that was asked is
>that
> > > > each crew must take 4 adults. That would allow for a "rescue party"
>to
> > > > have two adults and the crew staying back to have two adults. (I
> > > > believe that is the way the question was asked).
> > > >
> > > > At 11/17/2002 09:24 AM, you wrote:
> > > >>Always two dep leadership no matter what . Always Minimum two crew
> > > >> members on Philmont treks .. Ventures Co-Ed must have 1 female over
>21
> > > >
> > > > Comments....
> > > >
> > > > Which of course is not true. A single gender crew must have a
>minimum
> > > > of two adults, one of whom must be over the age of 21. Coed
>Venturing
> > > > Crews must have one male AND one female over the age of 21.
> > > >
> > > > A crew cannot have more than four adults over the age of 21. There
>is
> > > > no limit on "adults" between the ages of 18 and 21 (scouts or
> > > > venturers).
> > > >
> > > > If a crew must split for "rescue party" purposes, one adult should
>be
>in
> > > > each group. If a "rescue party" must split, one part will no longer
> > > > have an adult.
> > > >
> > > > - Al Thomson, Troop 236, Schooley's Mountain NJ
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