Re: [Philmont]: Work-ups in National Forrests

Are these regs something that could be distributed to
the folks submitting the tour permits?

--- "Dr. Bob Klein" <drbob@troop111.org> wrote:

> Kirk, I'm not sure what the answer is on something
> like this - we can
> counsel people to check all the pertinent regs, but
> we can't force them
> to do so. Certainly I have been pretty paranoid
> from the start of my
> Scoutmastership (that law enforcement background,
> you know....). A lot
> of that came from meticulously and constantly
> checking fishing and
> hunting regulations in my late teens and throughout
> my 20's.
>
> I will say that sometimes the ignorance of Scouters
> is (seemingly)
> deliberate. We have a rather famous mountain here,
> Old Rag Mountain.
> For years, the base looked like a mini-camporee
> there would be so many
> Troops camped there, on virtually every decent
> weather weekend (Coop and
> Wally will be happy to confirm this sad situation).
> Then came a large
> number of Posted/No Trespassing/Absolutely No
> Camping Signs. Did that
> stop the Scout camping? Of course not - it went on
> for 3 more years
> before it finally trailed off, and then only after
> many a ticket was
> written, and many a Troop evicted after dark on
> Friday or Saturday
> nights. Even today, I routinely find Units camping
> in violation of
> rules that are posted at every major trailhead in
> the Park, and on
> handouts given out with the trail permits. It is
> hard to be sympathetic
> when people are pretending to be illiterate.
>
> Again, I don't know what the answer is. But ss
> always, I will continue
> to counsel and educate - even if many of the
> "students" aren't interested.
>
> - Bob
>
>
> kbarley6 wrote:
> > Dr. Bob
> >
> > I'm having difficulty in G. W. National Forrest.
> Many of my Philmont
> > Crews, and the local Troops do not understand the
> restrictions on
> > Wilderness Areas in the Forrest. They like to
> work-up in St. Mary's and
> > Three Ridges Wilderness Areas. All have limits
> similar to Shenandoah.
> > Unfortunately, many do not realize there is a
> limit. I didn't when I
> > was a novice.
> >
> > I've instituted specific LNT training into the
> Contingent training
> > program specifically noting these restrictions.
> Still, many are
> > honestly ignorant of these restrictions.
> >
> > YIS
> >
> > Kirk Barley
> > Virginia Beach
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Received on Mon Nov 21 09:19:12 2005