From: Phil Hammons (hhammons@lausd.k12.ca.us)
Date: Mon Oct 29 2001 - 13:21:29 CST
POV (privately owned vehicle ) would be my choice although its more like 22 hours
drive time. I was at PTC this summer and saw multiple cars parked at the base camp but
cannot verify whether they were staff, crew vehicles or parent pick up/ drop off or
not. Some were very dusty.
FYI Venture crews with older youth ( 18 and up ) have another recourse to getting a
slot. They can work at Philmont. Rick Barnes the PTC director says that he needs about
900 youth a summer and usually makes about 1300 offers because of conflicts
and they get room board and a paycheck. They also get days off to use as they wish.
And he is always looking for new blood because they lose a certain percentage each
year to graduation ( college, that is ).
Starting another thread
Phil Hammons
"Donald S. Roberts" wrote:
> Now that it has become far more relevant to me than in the past, I wanted to
> ask about how to get to Philmont. There appear to be three options (Times
> are from So. Cal.):
> Train = 22 hours, no sleeping facilities, how to get from Raton to
> Philmont?
> Plane = 2 hour flight, but driving to airport, shuttle rental from Colo.
> Sprgs or Alb., checkin
> Automobile = 13 hour drive, need to stay somewhere on the way, can cars be
> parked at Philmont?
>
> Certianly, the car option is the least expensive (provided no breakdowns).
> Air travel will probably be more stable by 2003 (I certainly hope so).
> Train is interesting but that's a long time and half the trip is a rather
> tedious desert view (at least the other half has some variety), and sleeping
> in seats is not my idea of fun. Is the bus that goes from Raton to Philmont
> free? Flying is a cheaper ticket (on average), but the shuttle cost seems
> to kill that savings. Should reservations be made for the "Philbus"? Auto
> travel means the drivers, adult advisors, will be tired, and there are G2SS
> issues to resolve.
>
> So, what do others do?
>
> Don Roberts
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