[Philmont] Paint Pails and Micro Management

From: Joseph Jansen <jajansenjr@gmail.com>
Date: Sat Oct 13 2007 - 14:50:22 CDT

I've never heard of rotating Chaplain's Aide but it might work and
turn out to be a good idea.

The great thing about the length of a regular Philmont trek is there
are enough days in the trek that you can pretty much rotate everyone
through every position.

On the other hand you don't have to take this approach and can have
some rotation according to the wishes of the crew members.

The trek length and the challenge of even a so-called "ordinary" skill
level trek
is such that you see a crew come together as a team.

At the end of a trek when you see the "We All Made It" sign you come
to appreciate the full meaning of what that sign is all about.

Joe Jansen
JAJansenJr@gmail.com
Philmont 1965; 1978
1965 - worked extremely hard to meet the physical challenges as a crew member
1978 - was along for the ride as an advisor and mainly spent time admiring the
          smooth team functioning of an outstanding Council contingent crew

On 10/13/07, Roy Fisher <rfisher003@satx.rr.com> wrote:
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> The crew had six shakedowns before Philmont. They tried 8 qt pots and 4 qt
> pots. They had crunchy food one trip, lots of unhytrated lumps on several
> others and a spilled pot on another. They cooked directly in the pots and
> they tried turkey bags. They also had the opportunity to talk with other
> scouts who had been to Philmont the two previous years. The scouts rotated
> jobs, throughout the shakedowns, so everyone had the opportunity to do every
> job several times. By the time we went to Philmont, any of the scouts could
> have done any of the jobs. The point is, the scouts tried, succeeded and
> failed during the shakedowns and they made the decisions on what worked best
> for them. This included the cooking method, whether to use permanent or
> rotating jobs while at Philmont and many other things as well.
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> The advisors made sure the jobs rotated during the shakedowns and they
> pointed out some of the pros and cons of rotating vs. permanent jobs. But,
> it was the crew's decision on how do to things at Philmont. For the most
> part the permanent jobs worked well, although the crew chief made some
> adjustments a few days into the trek. There were also several times when
> one team had more or less to do than another, and for the most part the
> scouts jumped in to help where necessary.
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> I see this process as being similar to how positions are determined on a
> sports team. At the beginning of pre-season practice you may rotate folks
> through different positions, offense or defense, infield or outfield etc.
> But when it's game-time, you go with your starting quarterback and lead-off
> pitcher. And unless it's a very unusual circumstance, you don't substitute
> a defensive back for an interior lineman during the game. But when someone
> fumbles everyone goes for the recovery; if there is an interception even the
> quarterback tries to make the tackle.
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> I guess it just depends on how much preparation you have and how you define
> 'team'.
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> Just curious, of those who rotate assignments, how many rotate Chaplain's
> Aide along with the other duties? Why or why not?
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> Happy Trails,
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