From: Alan R. Hamm (ahamm@alanhamm.com)
Date: Fri Sep 13 2002 - 14:54:29 CDT
Lee,
You will find this list a wonderful resource that get better and better as
you get closer to your trip. I found it invaluable.
Another resource that I recommend is the Philmont Advisors Guide put
together by Cooper Wright. This has great information for advisors,
especially those going for the first time.
Coop's e-mail is CoopWright@aol.com
I know he is in the process of updating this with new information this year
so he may want to wait before sending it to you.
Alan Hamm
----- Original Message -----
From: <lee.hubbard@syngenta.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Philmont]: I'm glad I took, and wish I had...
> Never been to Philmont. I have been appointed as 2003 contingent leader
for
> our council (60 scouts and scouters; 8 from our troop). THIS THREAD IS
WHAT
> I HOPED FOR WHEN RECENTLY SIGNED ON!!
>
> Thanks, and keep the golden nuggets coming!
>
> Lee Hubbard, T103
> Old North State Council
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cliff Hall [mailto:drcliffhall@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> Subject: RE: [Philmont]: I'm glad I took, and wish I had...
>
>
> I think the backpacking guitar is a great idea. How
> did you protect it from getting crushed?
> --- "Tuck, Robert K." <RKTUCK@southernco.com> wrote:
> > I took the suggestion to use aluminum gutter nails
> > as tent stakes. They
> > worked out really good. They are cheap, light,
> > strong, and you can use a
> > stick or rock to pound them into tough ground.
> >
> > Trekking poles - I won't hike without them. We used
> > one of mine and one of
> > another advisor's as the tarp poles.
> >
> > Flashlight - LED headlight. Lightweight and the
> > batteries last forever. You
> > don't have to use a hand to hold it. I also took a
> > small single cell "AAA"
> > flashlight. The headlight and the flashlight use
> > the same type of
> > batteries.
> >
> > Sitting Pad - I took a 18" x 18" piece of an old
> > closed foam camping pad (2
> > ounces). I debated about taking a camp stool or
> > Thermarest chair, but I
> > didn't want the extra weight.
> >
> > Journal - I always take a journal of some kind. It
> > can just be a small
> > notepad.
> >
> > Spice Wheel - It made the food taste better.
> >
> > Water Filter - I know that there is a lot of debate
> > on this issue, but there
> > are a lot of things in the water that I don't want
> > to drink, even if the
> > microbes, viruses, and bacteria are dead. Remember
> > that Philmont is a
> > working cattle ranch. I use coffee filters as a
> > prefilter along with an
> > inline prefilter. They are lighter (and cheaper)
> > than the main filter.
> >
> > There were a few luxury items that we took: a
> > backpacking guitar (it got a
> > lot of use), a 3' x5' American flag (which we raised
> > and left on Mt.
> > Phillips), instant coffee, cream, sugar, equal and a
> > small pot to heat water
> > (it was nice to have a cup of coffee or hot
> > chocolate in the mornings.
> >
> > My son wants to got back in 2004. I guess that I
> > will have to tag along
> > again.
> >
> > Robert Tuck
> > Troop 550
> > Warner Robins, Georgia
> > Philmont 2002 620J2
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alan R. Hamm [SMTP:ahamm@alanhamm.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:26 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list philmont
> > > Subject: Re: [Philmont]: I'm glad I took, and
> > wish I had...
> > >
> > > I 100% agree on the trekking poles. Bought mine
> > at the last minute and
> > > used
> > > them on our last practice hike (without packs). I
> > was beginning to
> > > question
> > > whether they were worth the hassle when traveling
> > out there, but after
> > > using
> > > them "won't leave home without them".
> > >
> > > I disagree on the thermarest chair. I was out
> > there the same period as
> > > you
> > > and still used mine a lot. It fit perfectly on
> > the back of my external
> > > frame pack and took me 10 seconds to set it up
> > and/or put it away. I
> > > think
> > > it is the way to go because your pad starts
> > serving multiple functions 1)
> > > bed pad 2) chair pad 3) bear bait if you spill
> > food :)
> > >
> > > I wish I had better tent stakes. I destroyed mine
> > on that trip. I am not
> > > sure that there are any that are really light and
> > strong though.
> > >
> > > While I would like to have reduced my weight, I
> > really ended up with very
> > > little I did not use. Some warmer clothes that I
> > could have put on, but
> > > chose not to was about it. I also did not find
> > that I was missing or
> > > forgot
> > > much. Maybe I was real lucky.
> > >
> > > Alan Hamm
> > > 702F1
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <emuss3@ipass.net>
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont"
> > <philmont@troop47.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:28 PM
> > > Subject: [Philmont]: I'm glad I took, and wish I
> > had...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ok all! The silence is killing me-;)I know the
> > list
> > > > quiets down in the fall and picks up in the
> > spring, but
> > > > there are some things that people who are
> > beginning to
> > > > plan for next year, would benifit by considering
> > now.
> > > > Along those lines are some equipment decisions,
> > so
> > > > people have time to shop or perhaps get them for
> > > > presents. I know I was overwhelmed last spring
> > and
> > > > unable to get all the "must have" items. The
> > same thing
> > > > goes for some of the light weight equipment.
> > There
> > > > wasn't time to investigate or make it , let
> > alone work
> > > > with it on a training hike.
> > > >
> > > > To this end, I offer my opinion on the following
> > items
> > > > that I will never not have again at Philmont.
> > > >
> > > > 1.- Trekking Poles, we can debate this ad
> > infinitum. I
> > > > had never used them before, bought a pair on the
> > basis
> > > > of the comments on this list, and as a 45 year
> > old
> > > > hiker, I will never be without them again! Real
> > knee
> > > > savers. Consider them and practice with them.
> > > >
> > > > 2. A stool. We had lots of debate over this one,
> > but for
> > > > the extra 16 0r 20 ounces I will never go
> > without one
> > > > again. I tried going with my thermarest chair,
> > and found
> > > > myself standing the whole time. We arrived on
> > July 3,
> > > > and it rained 8 out of 11 days on us, and hard
> > at that.
> > > > ( The other three days it rained somewhere on
> > the ranch,
> > > > just not on me) In addition the one time I could
> > really
> > > > use my thermarest chair, because it wasn't all
> > muddy, I
> > > > managed to put a hole in my pad, fortunately it
> > was the
> > > > last night.
> > > >
> > > > 3. My head mounted flashlight. I had decided to
> > ditch
> > > > all my flashlights except for the neat 8 gram
> > light,
> > > > that was about the size of a quarter. (This is a
> > slick
> > > > light) One of my eagles presented me an
> > appreciation
> > > > gift of one of those new LED head lamps.
> > Naturally I had
> > > > to take it, and since I had it I had to use it.
> > It was
> > > > great! and well worth the 2 or 3 ounces of extra
> > > > weight.
> > > >
> > > > Whats your must have??
> > > > YIS
> > > > Hiking Czar
> > > > a.k.a. Fred Mussler
> > > > SM, T357, Raleigh NC. etc, etc,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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