The Phil-list Sep_2003: Re: [Philmont]: Transportation?- V01 #73

From: tom fitzpatrick <tk_fitz123@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu Sep 11 2003 - 07:52:48 CDT

Dennis:

Costs for pre-trek travel can vary greatly, it is all dependant upon how
many days you attach to the front and back of your trek, how much of a
tourist you plan on being, and how much of the planning you will be involved
in versus a travel agent. In 2002, we were looking at costs of
approximately 1300.00/trekker for the entire Philmont experience. This
included airfare from the east coast to Colorado Springs, two days of
tourist options (air force academy, flying w ranch, pikes peak cog railway,
cave of the winds), two 15 passenger vans for local travel, a coach bus
(with bathroom and tv/vcr) for the 4 hour trip to/from Philmont), meals and
motel rooms.

We were one of the troops who planned to use the now dissolved adventure
trails, but when the troop committee heard about was going on, they pulled
the plug on using that agent. With some scrambling, I was able to duplicate
the most of the trip that AT had mapped out for us for $1,120/trekker. I
could have further reduced costs by staying at youth hostels or similar
lower tier accommodations, but chose the comfort of a bed over a mat and
floor.

If you need more details, contact me off-list

----Original Message Follows----
From: "dcj119" <dcj119@bellsouth.net>
Reply-To: philmont@troop47.com
To: Multiple recipients of list philmont <philmont@troop47.com>
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Transportation?- V01 #730
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 01:28:59 -0400

Frank:

We are headed for Philmont in '04. Can you shed some light on the cost of
this pre-trek travel? Thanks.

DENNIS LYZNIAK
Troop 566
Miami Lakes

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doherty, Frank" <DOHERTYF@coned.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list philmont" <philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:08 PM
Subject: [Philmont]: Transportation?- V01 #730

> Kent,
> We used an organization called City Concierge for pick-up at the Denver
Airport,
> and arranging 3 days of activity - Air Force Academy, Garden of the Gods,
Cave
> of the Winds, Seven Falls, and White Water Rafting. Stu did an excellent
job of
> exploring our likes and needs, and matching them to available activities
and
> time, coming up with a great itinerary.
> STUART C. KUPFER
> CITY CONCIERGE
> Colorado Springs
> 719-282-3131
> I had comparison-shopped his prices with a couple of other tour agencies,
and he
> came out a bit less expensive bottom line, so we went with him. As he
and
I
> jointly developed the itinerary (my first Philmont trek) I became
convinced we
> made a good choice. Even so, he is associated with Ramblin Express, and
that
> price was a little high for the long hauls - White Water to Cimarron and
> Cimarron back to Denver. Timberline was one of the prices I had
obtained,
and I
> decided to go with them for the long hauls. They were on time and very
> courteous. If anything, they were conservative by allowing extra time
for
the
> trip back because of potential traffic delays due to road construction.
Sharon
> made herself available by phone to facilitate the pick up scheduling and
sooth
> any jitters that might develop. I was/am unaware of any convictions or
> ownership change, and glad about that.
> Sharon Vails
> Timberline Transportation
> 800-288-1375
> Based on our experience with 22 Scouts and Leaders, 7/22/03 - 8/6/03, I
endorse
> both.
> Thanks,
> Frank Doherty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: philmont-request@troop47.com [mailto:philmont-request@troop47.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:01 AM
> To: Philmont
> Subject: [Philmont] - philmont Digest - V01 #730
>
> philmont Digest Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:01:25 -0500 V01 #730
>
> Today's topics:
> 'Pre-Philmont Travel Planning Assistance'
> 'Re: [Philmont]: Pre-Philmont Travel Planning Assistance'
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:11:47 -0400
> From: Kent McCormick <kentmccormick@comcast.net>
> Subject: Pre-Philmont Travel Planning Assistance
>
>
> Can anybody provide current information about the ownership and operation
> of Adventure Trails and Timberline through ScoutConnect? As many are
> aware, in May 2002 there was discussion about the merits of using their
> services for transpiration and pre-Philmont sightseeing activities.
While
> the service may be valuable there was reason to question supporting these
> particular companies with, as I understand, a conviction by the
> owner/president. Has there been change in ownership since May 2002? Can
> anyone share their knowledge or have you used these services since then?
>
> Kent McCormick
> BSA Troop 125 of Rochester, Michigan
> Philmont Expeditions 1998, 2001
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:35:07 -0400
> From: patrick gilrane <pgilrane@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Pre-Philmont Travel Planning Assistance
>
>
> Kent,
>
> I'd recommend you contact Mike Pardue of BlueSky Adventures. We fielded
2
> crews (18 Scouts, 6 adults) this past summer and had a terrific
experience
> with BlueSky for our pre-Philmont trip. Mike has been a scoutmaster in
FLA
> for 20 years, understands the needs of Scouts on tour and has been to
> Philmont several times---We flew into Alberquerque and had a 2 day tour
with
> white water rafting, sightseeing, hotels, transportation, meals, drop off
to
> Base Camp and return back to Alberquerque all organized and coordinated
by
> Mike and the tour company.
>
> Mike can be contacted at www.blueskyadventures.net
>
> Have Fun.
>
> Patrick Gilrane
> Assistant Scoutmaster
> Troop 9
> Greenwich CT
>
>
>
>
>
>
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