Re: [Philmont]: fleece/ knit hats

Those Frogg Toggs better keep you dry at 11.5 lbs. ;)

Ken Flanagan
Philtreks X 10
AA x 2

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  From: rsafl61660@aol.com
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  Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 3:21 PM
  Subject: [Philmont]: fleece/ knit hats

  We were at Philmont from 7-21 thru 8-01 this year. As far as knit hats go: I only needed mine on one occasion, and that was on the evening of and following morning on Mt Phillips. I debated carrying it, since it was late July. I'm glad I packed it. The temperature dropped to 35deg. by 5PM, and we had been pelted with hail then rain and then hail again for about 1 1/2 hours. We had planned our meals such that we didn't need to cook on Phillips. The boys ate their trail lunch for dinner, drank their hot Gatorade and were all in bed by 5:30-6:00, since it was cold and wet. Some of the boys wore theirs on more than one occasion.

  If anyone is contemplating on what type of rain gear to take, my suggestion is not to count on a poncho. I almost guarantee you will be miserable if it rains as much as it did on us. When the rains came, the wind usually came with it, at least for a spell. A poncho will not keep your sides dry, and unless you are creative, quick and consistent, the poncho will blow up and around you thereby rendering it more of an obstacle than weather protection. I don't recommend being talked out of leaving the pants behind. As I mentioned, we were there in late July, early August. However we had rain everyday except the last day, and the temperatures at night when the sun went down, as well as early AM were mostly in the 40's. The rain pants made a nice wind break and really made a difference on comfort. I was able to get away with my hiking shorts and rain pants on cool/ cold conditions. We had 1 day of almost all rain(off and on), and the temp didn't get above the low 60's the entire day. Staying dry helped keep warm. 7 of our 12 crew used Frogg Toggs rain suits. They are a tyvek type material, weigh 11.5 lbs. for both pieces, nad cost lessthan $70.00 a piece. I had to purchase 3 for myself and my 2 boys. They were great for our trip out to Philmont. As much as we were in them, we put them through a battery of tests. They shed the water completely. They are theoretically of a breathable material( though like Gortex, they don't breath as quick as condensation builds up in them, therefore they still get "wet" inside). Got gaught in an ember "storm" at Beaubien when someone stirred the branding iron fire and got pin holes in the jacket.

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Received on Fri Sep 10 16:11:04 2004