Because of our signed participant agreements, I deal with the problem on the
pretrek hikes and not at Philmont.
Amen.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Hoffman" <mycales@comcast.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list PHILMONT" <PHILMONT@troop47.com>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Different Categories of "Deficient" Advisors
> AMEN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. Bob Klein" <drbob@troop111.org>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list PHILMONT" <PHILMONT@troop47.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:35 PM
> Subject: [Philmont]: Different Categories of "Deficient" Advisors
>
>
> >A dangerous topic, but here goes: Regarding unScoutlike contempt of
> > "deficient" Advisors, I think it is important to recognize that there
> > are a variety of categories of Advisors who can't cut it on the trail.
> >
> > First are those who are simply physically overmatched despite their best
> > efforts. One of the sadder moments I have ever witnessed on the Ranch
> > was a 20+-Arrowhead graybeard taking himself off the trail because he
> > simply couldn't do it anymore, and knew it. Based on a brief
> > conversation we had, he'd half killed himself getting ready, knew
> > exactly what it took, did his best, and realized that he was impacting
> > way negatively on his Crew's experience. His Crew repeatedly offered to
> > basically carry him, really they just about begged him, and he refused
> > as a matter of pride and honor. Two tears traced down his stern face as
> > his Crew disappeared down the trail. That man had my utmost respect,
> > and I hope I have that kind of courage when that same inevitable reality
> > faces me.
> >
> > The second type are those who trained hard and got their carry weights
> > down, but simply didn't do enough and got surprised. They were first
> > timers, and didn't understand what it took, despite all the counsel and
> > warnings. But they soldier on manfully, with a rueful grin. Their
> > Crews treat them with respect, because they knew they had been training,
> > had faithfully made the meetings, hikes, and shakedowns, and were full
> > members of their Crews. In such cases, the Crews do what they have to:
> > lighten their loads, slow down, take breaks, pick easier trails, etc.
> > And usually with humor on both sides. I've got no problem with that
> > situation, and hope no one else would, either.
> >
> > But then there are the members of the third category: Folks that didn't
> > do a damn thing other than pay their money. Meetings? Too busy.
> > Hikes? Too busy. Shakedowns? Too busy. Training? - "I'll get in
> > shape on the trail". Gear? - "I know what I need, and I'll take
> > whatever I want". Crew? - "Hey, what's your name again?" Crew-Chief? -
> > "I'm the "Advisor" - you do what I say". And so on and so on. Sound
> > familiar? Every experienced member of this list can read you chapter
> > and verse on these types of Advisors. They are a boat anchor around
> > their Crew's collective necks. As well as being jerks to the Philstaff
> > and fellow Crews/fellow Advisors. Their Crews usually have little pity
> > for them, because they know full well they didn't do squat to get ready.
> > It is common for these Crews to implode on the trail, and fall apart
> > into 3 or 4 sub-cliques in absolute dysfunctionality. They keep the
> > Camp Directors and Chaplain Staff busy.
> >
> > Some members of this list have tagged me for what you regard as the
> > overly aggressive preface on each of my on-line diaries. Do you know
> > why that is there? Basically because I have had numerous emails through
> > the years from Advisors who blamed me for their miserable Philmont
> > experiences because my diaries paint them as being too easy. The first
> > two or three times I got these, I thought maybe the senders were joking
> > or something. Wrong. So I have to put an explicit warning on my
> > diaries so they can't use me as their excuse - or at least won't to my
> > face via email. "You have been warned".
> >
> > Am I contemptuous of such "Category III" Advisors? Yes, I am. I've
> > earned the right. How many thousands of times has that damn alarm clock
> > gone off at 4:15 - 4:30 am, insistent that I get my fat ass out of bed
> > and do what has to be done to get prepped for Philmont, or the
> > Appalachian Trail, or the Swiss Alps, or the Sierras, or the northern
> > Rockies? Does anyone think I really enjoy backpacking 50 pounds of
> > telephone books for two hour stretches up and down death hill day after
> > day when it's 95 degrees out, or backpacking 10 miles to the National
> > Airport Metro through thunderstorms, 80 percent relative humidity, in
> > sleetstorms, or when it's 10 degrees out? Or running 2 or 3 miles up
> > and down hills, or spinning an AirDyne as hard as I can for 30 minutes,
> > with my arms and legs on fire and my pulse too fast for me to measure?
> > Or completing those last 10 agonizing miles of a 50/20 Hike? I'm typing
> > this sore as hell from this morning's 5 am run and workout (I pushed a
> > little too hard today) - and my next Philtrek is 10 months from now.
> > This is what it takes for Bob Klein to keep up with his Scouts, and he
> > may not like it but he does it. It's either that or surrender and get
> > busy dying (no thanks).
> >
> > So yes, I don't have a lot of pity for folks who were "too busy" or
> > whatever other excuses they have, then go out there and make life
> > miserable for their Crews and anyone else who is unfortunate enough to
> > cross their paths. They deserved what they got - but the rest of us
> > (and the Philstaff) don't deserve the spin-off grief. As far as I am
> > concerned they are the single worst aspect of Philmont, and - yes - they
> > deserve our contempt. They've earned it. Commitment is more than a
> > flush checking account.
> >
> > End of rant.
> >
> > - Dr. Bob
> >
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